[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Sophiee

hope this stops people complaining about 'bullying' on here now.

Well it will if Helen chills the **** out. If she continues then BB saying something to her wont have stopped it will it

[Livia]

About time.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She didnt even moan on the night she was given it, this is why the public are behind her, shes not kicked up a fuss as lots would have done over her awful treatment

Are people watching the same show? Or are some people choosing to be blind to Jale's tactics here?

[Mystic Mock]

Also what are people gonna say once Pauline leaves and Jale still carries on playing the victim? Because let's face it she will.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Also what are people gonna say once Pauline leaves and Jale still carries on playing the victim? Because let's face it she will.

Pauline isn't the one bullying Jale though Helen is.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Pauline isn't the one bullying Jale though Helen is.

LOL. This. Why would Pauline leaving make a difference..if anything I can see Helen getting worse once shes 'queen bee' so to speak

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

Pauline isn't the one bullying Jale though Helen is.

Pauline's not bullying her this week. She made a pretty good start last week, though. Helen's just picked up the slack.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

Pauline isn't the one bullying Jale though Helen is.

Jale and some of her fans try and sell both of them as bullying Jale, especially in the first week.

Oh and Toya, Ash, and Kimberly, are all these people being evil to her for the sake of it? Or is it because she's actually doing something to piss these people off?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Jale and some of her fans try and sell both of them as bullying Jale, especially in the first week.

Oh and Toya, Ash, and Kimberly, are all these people being evil to her for the sake of it? Or is it because she's actually doing something to piss these people off?

Lovely Kimberly has not been evil to Jale

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Jale and some of her fans try and sell both of them as bullying Jale, especially in the first week.

Oh and Toya, Ash, and Kimberly, are all these people being evil to her for the sake of it? Or is it because she's actually doing something to piss these people off?

Jale hasn't done anything to condone this behavior

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Are people watching the same show? Or are some people choosing to be blind to Jale's tactics here?

Same could be said about you Mocky,your dislike of Jale seems unfounded

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Jale and some of her fans try and sell both of them as bullying Jale, especially in the first week.

Oh and Toya, Ash, and Kimberly, are all these people being evil to her for the sake of it? Or is it because she's actually doing something to piss these people off?

..if you were in the house Mock and being isolated and knew that a group of housemates were discussing you and being horrible about you, would you want the public to keep those people in for 'their entertainment' because it gave us all something to talk about..?...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by InOne

Lovely Kimberly has not been evil to Jale

Don't tell me, tell some of her fans who think that anyone that doesn't like Jale is a bully.

I mean I read a post on DS today that thought that because Christopher and Danielle aren't openly defending Jale that they are also bullies.

I mean give Jale time but even she hasn't claimed that them two are bullying her yet.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Same could be said about you Mocky,your dislike of Jale seems unfounded

It wouldn't probably be so bad though Kazanne if it didn't feel like that I had to pick up on Jale's bad points because nobody else will do it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..if you were in the house Mock and being isolated and knew that a group of housemates were discussing you and being horrible about you, would you want the public to keep those people in for 'their entertainment' because it gave us all something to talk about..?...

It's different living in there than watching it though Ammi.

And also if the grand majority of the house are being rude to one person constantly then that person must be doing something.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It's different living in there than watching it though Ammi.

And also if the grand majority of the house are being rude to one person constantly then that person must be doing something.

But that doesn't condone any of their actions, and bullying shouldn't be turned around om the victim. Jale hasn't treated any hpusemate like dirt, why should she be treated badly?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It wouldn't probably be so bad though Kazanne if it didn't feel like that I had to pick up on Jale's bad points because nobody else will do it.

Apart from being the butt of Helen's nastiness , and handling the killer nom well, i can 't actually see what else Jale has done in the house to deserve her popularity so im with you on that one Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jake.

But that doesn't condone any of their actions, and bullying shouldn't be turned around om the victim. Jale hasn't treated any hpusemate like dirt, why should she be treated badly?

Wanting to be a victim loses the tag "bullying" for me, and I'm not saying that all the stuff that Helen/Pauline does is justified, I'm just saying though that the highlights aren't showing what Jale must be doing that's pissing so many of the Housemates off, because look at it why would so many Housemates keep targeting Jale like that? Also with Jale if she wins what will be her best bits? I was allegedly picked on in the house?

[flamingGalah!]

How does Jale "want" to be a victim?!? She didn't ask them to bully her & be nasty to her did she?! Or do you believe it is someones own fault if they are bullied?? Bullies pick a target, Jale doesn't have to do anything for them to pick on her, just like the school yard bullies that will pick on the nerdy or fat kid...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It's different living in there than watching it though Ammi.

And also if the grand majority of the house are being rude to one person constantly then that person must be doing something.

..yeah it is different being a part of it and that's why it's harder to see things than when you're an 'outsider' looking in and maybe why Jale hasn't necessarily felt 'bullied' or seen their behaviour for what it is...do you really think that someone who is constantly bullied which a lot of people are and made extremely unhappy by it are doing something wrong/do you think it must be their own fault and they deserve to be isolated and made miserable..?..

[Mystic Mock]

Jale turns any sly dig thrown at her into some sort of mass attack from the whole house, it's ridiculous because in any other year calling someone Slugsworth would be seen as nasty but not as bullying.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Wanting to be a victim loses the tag "bullying" for me, and I'm not saying that all the stuff that Helen/Pauline does is justified, I'm just saying though that the highlights aren't showing what Jale must be doing that's pissing so many of the Housemates off, because look at it why would so many Housemates keep targeting Jale like that? Also with Jale if she wins what will be her best bits? I was allegedly picked on in the house?

How is she wanting to be a victim? She hasn't claimed that Helen is being nasty to her, she has been and it's been witnessed. If she was making such claims with no evidence, fair enough.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Jale turns any sly dig thrown at her into some sort of mass attack from the whole house, it's ridiculous because in any other year calling someone Slugsworth would be seen as nasty but not as bullying.

Again, explain how she did? Because she wasn't the one who even brought up the slug comment, Danielle did and told her that she should say something back.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah it is different being a part of it and that's why it's harder to see things than when you're an 'outsider' looking in and maybe why Jale hasn't necessarily felt 'bullied' or seen their behaviour for what it is...do you really think that someone who is constantly bullied which a lot of people are and made extremely unhappy by it are doing something wrong/do you think it must be their own fault and they deserve to be isolated and made miserable..?..

I would never agree to isolating anyone (unless they're a criminal of course) but I do think that if a large group of people are constantly going for you then there must be something that you are doing to attract their attention like that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jake.

How is she wanting to be a victim? She hasn't claimed that Helen is being nasty to her, she has been and it's been witnessed. If she was making such claims with no evidence, fair enough.

Deliberately making out that she has people treating her like a dartboard so people would go "poor Jale she's being mistreated in that house it must be so awful for her" and ostracizing herself from her first proper night in the house was definitely her way of trying to be a victim because nobody had even said much to her at that point as it was just first impressions.