[the truth]

Incredible to think in the 70 years since the disastrous world war 2 where germany was taken over by a psychotic austrian......since those dark days, germany has become pretty much the greatest country in the world, whereas israel has become the worst country in the world. food for thought.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Livia, thanks for taking the time to explain your reasons for not wanting to converse with me, I meant to say Israelis but maybe used the word Jews in error and for that I am truly sorry.

I am upset that you cannot even bring yourself to debate topics with me on this forum , I never set out to try and insult you or deliver personal attacks.

I like to think of myself as a well educated person with a good set of morals ready to speak up for injustice wherever I see it.

I have no specific loyalties to any particular group or class or religion. In fact as I have said on this forum on many occasions I consider religion as a deeply personal thing and am suspicious of organised religion as I feel it is used to control people and can be manipulated to set people against one another.

I hope in time we may exchange the odd post or two and that some of my misguided earlier posts may be forgiven.

Nedusa.....

Not sure you saw my last post to you Livia........





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[arista]

Hamas need to Fire 20 rockets at the same time
to confuse the defense system
and hit people.

As so far no missile has killed anyone

[Crimson Dynamo]

30 odd children dead so far 172 dead total in last 7 days

No deaths in Israel.

As terrorists they are not exactly proficient

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

30 odd children dead so far 172 dead total in last 7 days

No deaths in Israel.

As terrorists they are not exactly proficient

The israelis are the real terrorists and their actions and totally disproportionate. 1000s more palestinians homeless, 100s more innocents butchered to death and the world does nothing....were not even allowed to talk about it openly on our own state sponsored television.

why should innocent paletinians pay for the crimes of nazi warmongers 70 years ago? because thats really the end result of this disastrous country

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Not sure you saw my last post to you Livia........

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That was very decent of you, Nedusa. I in turn apologise for making an issue of a post you made some time ago omitting to credit the author. It was childish of me.

I'm willing to draw a line if you are.

[the truth]

ahh some peace in our time , well with you 2 at least..... if only they could do likewise in israel and palestine

[Northern Monkey]

To be fair to Israel,What are they supposed to do when the cowardly Hamas fire rockets from civillian areas?Hamas are turning these areas into military targets.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

To be fair to Israel,What are they supposed to do when the cowardly Hamas fire rockets from civillian areas?Hamas are turning these areas into military targets.

firstly the jews/israelis had no right wahtsoever to steal land from the palestinians 60 years ago, since then its been endless bloodshed

however as for the here and now the israelis must stop building illegal settlements? stop preventing palestine from having country status, despite the fact over 200 nations voted in favor of it, stop murdering 100s of innocents people with lethal state of the art bombs in response to hammas toy rockets...hammas has no real wepons, the israeli response is outrageously disproportionate and contravenes humans rights laws galore. beyond laws to carry on killing 100s of innocent people in response suffer no fatalities at all is outrageously immoral.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

That was very decent of you, Nedusa. I in turn apologise for making an issue of a post you made some time ago omitting to credit the author. It was childish of me.

I'm willing to draw a line if you are.

Yes I would like to as well.





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[arista]

Israeli gunboat missile kills four boys from the same family as they played on Gaza beach as death toll rises to 204

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz37eb5R0DZ

[Livia]

The six-hour pause in Israeli air strikes began at 9am on Tuesday as part of a proposal unveiled by Egypt on Monday intended to lead to a full ceasefire and talks on a long-term agreement.

Hamas rejected the plan, saying it had not been consulted and its demands were not being met. According to the Israeli military, more than 50 rockets were fired into Israel before air strikes were resumed.

But there were inconsistent messages from Hamas. Its military wing, the al-Qassam Brigades, robustly rejected the proposal as a "surrender", saying "our battle with the enemy continues and will increase in ferocity and intensity". But Hamas spokesmen in Gaza said the Islamist group had not received an official ceasefire proposal, and its demands must be met before it lays down arms.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ects-ceasefire

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

The six-hour pause in Israeli air strikes began at 9am on Tuesday as part of a proposal unveiled by Egypt on Monday intended to lead to a full ceasefire and talks on a long-term agreement.

Hamas rejected the plan, saying it had not been consulted and its demands were not being met. According to the Israeli military, more than 50 rockets were fired into Israel before air strikes were resumed.

But there were inconsistent messages from Hamas. Its military wing, the al-Qassam Brigades, robustly rejected the proposal as a "surrender", saying "our battle with the enemy continues and will increase in ferocity and intensity". But Hamas spokesmen in Gaza said the Islamist group had not received an official ceasefire proposal, and its demands must be met before it lays down arms.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ects-ceasefire

yes sadly true

[the truth]

probably not true , either way who knows. where the heck is the EU or the USA in this bloodbath? at least bill clinton did get a peace deal , even amidst the whole lewinsky affair.

[arista]

Gaza City under Big attack

From Israel Naval
and Israel Air



Power has Been Cut

Ref: SkyNewsHD , CNN and BBC

[Pete.]

just crazy

[Me. I Am Salman]

OMG someone just dragged tf out of bbc and exposed their bias

[Brother Leon]

I remember when Galloway ripped Sky News and their bias to shreds years ago live on television. Was some amazing stuff.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I remember when Galloway ripped Sky News and their bias to shreds years ago live on television. Was some amazing stuff.

I don't trust Galloway. How can I trust a "pro-Palestinian" politician that gets so much airtime on "anti-Palestinian" media?
I don't look at him and think "you're intelligent", I look at him and think "you're intelligence".

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I don't trust Galloway. How can I trust a "pro-Palestinian" politician that gets so much airtime on "anti-Palestinian" media?
I don't look at him and think "you're intelligent", I look at him and think "you're intelligence".

galloway is a legend. the man knows more than anyone and fights more for the oppressed than anyone. i dont agree with him on everything but hes fought the warmongering jews in israel and bush and blair and all their warmongering lies and he has been proven 100% correct on every single word. check the utterly disgusting biased bbc interviews done with galloway on you tube. the bbc are worse than fox news with their disgusting bias. they promote war more than anyone

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

OMG someone just dragged tf out of bbc and exposed their bias

wheres that clip?

[Kizzy]

'Thousands of protesters have gathered in London today to call for an end to Israeli military action in Gaza and "justice and freedom" for Palestine.

Up to 15,000 people are thought to have marched through the capital from Downing Street to the Israeli embassy in Kensington after Israel launched a ground invasion of Gaza on Thursday.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'Thousands of protesters have gathered in London today to call for an end to Israeli military action in Gaza and "justice and freedom" for Palestine.

Up to 15,000 people are thought to have marched through the capital from Downing Street to the Israeli embassy in Kensington after Israel launched a ground invasion of Gaza on Thursday.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

That changes Nothing

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

That changes Nothing

In respect to what?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In respect to what?

The War is never ending out there