[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

It wasn't the first time though....

Well whenever it was the first time....

[Mystic Mock]

Steven's a very dirty perv, but no I don't think he raped her.

[Mokka]

oh Please... reaching much???

and no

[jet]

It is actually believed by some that Steven raped her? Is there one shred of evidence for this? We seen it on camera and I seen nothing of the kind whatsoever, so why this thread?
If that was so, she would hardly have lain there without a sign of protest or carried on as normal with him the next day.
I don't like Steven, but this thread is beyond the pale.

[KADENACY]

Kimberly Kisselovich Steven Goode Sex In The Big Brother House

Originally Posted by jet

It is actually believed by some that Steven raped her? Is there one shred of evidence for this? We seen it on camera and I seen nothing of the kind whatsoever, so why this thread?
If that was so, she would hardly have lain there without a sign of protest or carried on as normal with him the next day.
I don't like Steven, but this thread is beyond the pale.

Well said Jet:-From what the Big brother UK 15 video film showed,it is obvious that Kimberly and Steven agreed to have sex with each other,i.e.Kimberly Kisselovich and Steven Goode had sexual intercourse by mutual consent.

Plus the fact that before she entered the Big Brother UK 15 House,Kimberly Kisselovich stated that she was prepared to have sex in
in the Big Brother House!

KADENACY

[MTVN]

She did basically say she hadn't been comfortable with it on last night's show

[Maxy]

I don't think that he forced himself on her but it seems to me that she can't say no to anything he wants.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Achilles

It was very disturbing. I thought I had accidentally switched over and Straw Dogs was on for a moment.

He actually was on his side, looked both ways and decided to go for it. He basically flung himself on her.

[Tarryn]

Even Ash was disgusted.............that takes some doing.
Quote of the series; Steven "I'm the least controlling person ever".
That's like Helen saying "I don't start any arguments".
Or Danielle saying "I'm a lady"...............Oh wait, she does say that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Even Ash was disgusted.............that takes some doing.
Quote of the series; Steven "I'm the least controlling person ever".
That's like Helen saying "I don't start any arguments".
Or Danielle saying "I'm a lady"...............Oh wait, she does say that.

[billy123]

This thread is so pathetic it concerns me that people would throw completely baseless suggestions/accusations like this around based pretty much entirely on dislike of a housemate.
I find it all a bit disturbing and im pretty amazed that not only has it been allowed but that some people i thought should know better have joined in.
Pretty shameful behaviour tibb.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This thread is so pathetic it concerns me that people would throw completely baseless suggestions/accusations like this around based pretty much entirely on dislike of a housemate.
I find it all a bit disturbing and im pretty amazed that not only has it been allowed but that some people i thought should know better have joined in.
Pretty shameful behaviour tibb.

Steven, is that you ?.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Steven, is that you ?.

Mature

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Mature

Thank you.

[billy123]

I know we all like getting over involved and going a bit over the top from time to time anybody that knows me on here knows i terrible for it but **** me backwards when you start throwing rape accusations about thats too much it just doesnt sit right with me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This thread is so pathetic it concerns me that people would throw completely baseless suggestions/accusations like this around based pretty much entirely on dislike of a housemate.
I find it all a bit disturbing and im pretty amazed that not only has it been allowed but that some people i thought should know better have joined in.
Pretty shameful behaviour tibb.

Why say baseless, What have we seen to suggest it's a normal relationship?
Not much I say, I appreciate not everyones idea of what constitutes a healthy relationship is different.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why say baseless, What have we seen to suggest it's a normal relationship?
Not much I say, I appreciate not everyones idea of what constitutes a healthy relationship is different.

What so everyones a rapist until they show that they arent? yeah sensible one kizzy.

[billy123]

Im really not interested in getting bogged down in how much of a creep he is i think we all know that much but grow up for ****s sake.
I have said my piece and i will leave you to it because im not here to argue about it just tell you what i think about it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

What so everyones a rapist until they show that they arent? yeah sensible one kizzy.

Don't misinterpret what I say please.

[Tarryn]

I really don't think anyone on here is seriously saying Steven is a rapist, or we all would have picked up our phones & called the police.
This is a very strange relationship though.
Do I believe Kim was raped ?. No, of course not.
I just find some of Steven's behaviour very strange & manipulative.
He guilt-tripped that evening.
He is a liar. He said he never asked her to cut the photos up but he did.
He used fake tears & anger to get his way.
Steven is NOT a rapist but a total twat.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I really don't think anyone on here is seriously saying Steven is a rapist, or we all would have picked up our phones & called the police.
This is a very strange relationship though.
Do I believe Kim was raped ?. No, of course not.
I just find some of Steven's behaviour very strange & manipulative.
He guilt-tripped that evening.
He is a liar. He said he never asked her to cut the photos up but he did.
He used fake tears & anger to get his way.
Steven is NOT a rapist but a total twat.

He didn't .. He said 'If that was me, I would have cut up the photos and put them in the bin'.. that's not me saying that I don't find his behaviour strange and controlling, but the insinuations of rape are getting OTT

[Tarryn]

I never thought "Rape" when I watched it so yes, it is way OTT to suggest it.
But I think BB called Kim to the Diary room just to check she was okay with everything. They do have a duty of care to every housemate.
Steven questioning her when she came out of the Diary room WAS OTT. Can she not have any privacy ?. What next, holding her hand when she needs to go to the bathroom ?.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No offence but this is a status asking if we think Steven raped Kimberly?

And it was allowed and even edited to add a poll by mods?

Baffled.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jake.

He didn't .. He said 'If that was me, I would have cut up the photos and put them in the bin'.. that's not me saying that I don't find his behaviour strange and controlling, but the insinuations of rape are getting OTT

there are direct and indirect ways of speaking, sometimes you can pick up on very subtle intonations and the intent is to manipulate a situation with the use of coercion.