[Marc]

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marc

Chris is decent and not an attention seeking trollop

He looks like he's desperate for attention in the diary room to me.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by susie q

Like this post, I think that they have also both got fed up off trying to get there points across to people who just dont listen, and usually just talk over them. The diary room is also a good place for someone to go and let off steam.

Why is it acceptable to go to the diary room and let off steam but not go off with a person and have a bitch with them? The latter seems far more honest and natural to me. Going to the diary room is about putting a performance on for the audience.

Especially after being on the receiving end of one of the "Im just up front" gangs tirade. Im fed up with the people who just use this as reason for
being downright rude & nasty.

I don't condone it either. But Chris is going after people's characters in the diary room, but because he's bitching to us, the audience, rather than to another person he's being thought of as good for doing it. The truth is what he's doing is more manipulative.

[Patricia4]

Everyone does that in the diary room they have all said things in there that have not been said in the house to the person.
He's OK Chris.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He looks like he's desperate for attention in the diary room to me.

Everybody is the exact same in the DR so I don't see your point.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He looks like he's desperate for attention in the diary room to me.

Chris cant help being observant there are some rather pathetic individual's in that house

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Marc

Everybody is the exact same in the DR so I don't see your point.

Haters gonna Hate

[waterhog]

i think he will up his game - just building confidence - done in a brill way.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marc

Everybody is the exact same in the DR so I don't see your point.

No, they're not. I haven't seen Winston do that in the diary room, unless it was for nominations for example.

The likes of Victor, Kemal, Derek Laud and Chris all knew what they were doing in the diary room. Putting on a performance, and they all did it very differently.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Haters gonna Hate

Why is it no one can have a debate anymore and instead just call people "Haters"

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

No, they're not. I haven't seen Winston do that in the diary room, unless it was for nominations for example.

The likes of Victor, Kemal, Derek Laud and Chris all knew what they were doing in the diary room. Putting on a performance, and they all did it very differently.

That's because Winston is so neutral his opinions don't matter, he's probably said bad things but I don't think he even nows what's going on most days lol

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marc

That's because Winston is so neutral his opinions don't matter

He's not neutral though. He takes very strong positions on things like Marlon pressing the button and many of us think Winston puts it on to make himself look good in the eyes of the public. I personally agree with that view. I think Winston is false.

But I think a similar case can be made against Chris with what he does in the diary room.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

No, the point of the diary room is to put on a performance for the audience. Victor (bb5) understood this. What's interesting is that to this day the viewers have never questioned whether or not the people who perform well in there are trying to manipulate them.

In some ways doing that in the diary room is more suspicious. Everyone will need to go off an vent and the more natural thing to do is to go off into a corner with another person and do it. When someone goes to the diary room to do a character assassination it feels somehow more manipulative to me. And it is clearly being done "behind the back" without that person having any right of reply or to defend themself.

Oh whatever.

They can use the diary room to manipulate but the purpose of the room is somewhere they can vent, hence why housemates go there to whinge and moan about others when they don't want to cause an argument.

There is a reason it's called the "DIARY" room.

Obviously broadcasting footage from it has lessened its purpose over the years.

[Me. I Am Salman]

chris is not just being 'well mannered' , he clearly thinks the others are below his level but is too afraid to say it in front of them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman

chris is not just being 'well mannered' , he clearly thinks the others are below his level but is too afraid to say it in front of them.

Why would anyone say "Hey, you're below my level"? No one would say that, unless they were an idiot. And frankly, they are mostly below his level.

Hey Salman...

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, when housemates are accused of being "two faced" it's not really about their diary room sessions. The whole point of the diary room is the housemates to give their thoughts and feelings on Big Brother, including those they choose not to voice in the house.

That's not the same as Helen bitching about Danielle or Toya bitching about Helen.

I wouldn't say any of them are two faced based on their diary room talks, as that's the purpose of it, to vent and talk. Bitching between themselves in the house is when they're labelled two faced.

Well going by that theory, he's still two faced as he was happy to bitch about Biannca to Ashleigh/Christopher/Danielle but started backtracking and apologising when Biannca confronted him about it. Had she not seen it/confronted him over it, would he have said to to her face? I highly doubt it.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Well going by that theory, he's still two faced as he was happy to bitch about Biannca to Ashleigh/Christopher/Danielle but started backtracking and apologising when Biannca confronted him about it. Had she not seen it/confronted him over it, would he have said to to her face? I highly doubt it.

I agree with you. The way he wriggles his way out of these things is smarmy

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Well going by that theory, he's still two faced as he was happy to bitch about Biannca to Ashleigh/Christopher/Danielle but started backtracking and apologising when Biannca confronted him about it. Had she not seen it/confronted him over it, would he have said to to her face? I highly doubt it.

Now that is a valid example of bitching/two faced. I never said he's not bitched in the house.

My post simply meant that diary room sessions themselves aren't the best examples. The purpose of that room is to say what's on your mind and discuss the other housemates. So diary room conversations don't make a housemate a bitch or two faced, their actions in the actual house do.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Now that is a valid example of bitching/two faced. I never said he's not bitched in the house.

My post simply meant that diary room sessions themselves aren't the best examples. The purpose of that room is to say what's on your mind and discuss the other housemates. So diary room conversations don't make a housemate a bitch or two faced, their actions in the actual house do.

I agree, however it reality defeats the purpose of a HM being there if they only say their opinions in the DR and are happy to just sit in the house and nit actually offer/contribute/let the others know about how they are feeling.

It just feels almost like he's more concerned about talking to the public than he is about talking to the housemates, and the whole point of the show isn't to interact with the public, it's to interact with your fellow HMs.

[anniemay]

I love little Chris, his observations in the diary room are always spot on and really entertaining to watch.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I agree, however it reality defeats the purpose of a HM being there if they only say their opinions in the DR and are happy to just sit in the house and nit actually offer/contribute/let the others know about how they are feeling.

It just feels almost like he's more concerned about talking to the public than he is about talking to the housemates, and the whole point of the show isn't to interact with the public, it's to interact with your fellow HMs.

It certainly comes across that way. But I have a sneaky feeling he does have conversations where he discusses things more openly with people he gets along with. But it's never favoured in the edit over showmances and arguing.

Christopher and Ashleigh chatting away and laughing last night took me by surprise. There's all sorts we never see.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Shaun

yes, well, everyone who "sez it 2 ur face xx" ends up evicted by week 3, don't they toya hayden?

[Northern Monkey]

To be fair to him,I think his cowardice comes accross as two facedness,He just does'nt like confrontation.It's annoying though.

[Achilles]

When we are watching a housemate and listening to whatever it is they are saying, we can either agree with what they say, or disagree with what they say. If you tend to agree with what a housemate is saying the majority of the time, chances are you will like that housemate. If you tend to disagree with what a housemate is saying the majority of the time, chances are you will dislike that housemate. I agree with what Chris says 90% of the time and he is also a good egg, so that makes him one of the best housemates. If you disagree with what Chris says and you don't care much for good eggs, chances are you not going to be a Chris fan.

[mrflibble]

From what others have said and the recent video from the task, I think people are confusing two-faced for being tactful and polite. If people have a personal clash with someone at work, do they just have it out with them or do they try and maintain a professional relationship and then come home and complain to their non-work friends later?