[Tip]

I don't think it's what I'd call a journey - probably more like an afternoon stroll.

27 years old and she's learnt that she's judgmental - which of course is a great thing to learn but really - does indicate that the barriers she has to self perception appear to be enormous.

A return to friends and an environment where nobody challenges her behaviour and attitudes and she'll probably forget about it and return to her habitual way of responding in all probability.

She'd have to have a reason to really change long term - but maybe she will have one.

[Braden]

No way, she's acted a like a dick the entire time she's been in there, we're only getting a watered down version now because of how many warnings she's had.

[chuff me dizzy]

Do I hellaslike

[Jake.]

The whole 'people only like her because she's pretty' crap doesn't add up either, given how her popularity has only spiked within the past 3 or so weeks.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jake.

The whole 'people only like her because she's pretty' crap doesn't add up either, given how her popularity has only spiked within the past 3 or so weeks.

Right flower ,please tell us what she's done to make her so popular ? because Im beggared if I know

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Right flower ,please tell us what she's done to make her so popular ? because Im beggared if I know

Well I can't speak for others, all I know is that I like her as a housemate and that's that

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Well I can't speak for others, all I know is that I like her as a housemate and that's that

For what reason ?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

For what reason ?

Step back with the interrogation, it'd be like me saying 'I didn't like Luke A in BB13 so you need to tell me why you did'.. Am I not able to enjoy watching a housemate without having to explain why?

[Kizzy]

Yes I do 100%

[erinp5]

With the public in control I will watch with interest how Helen reacts .

[joeysteele]

I have never really liked Ashleigh, she was for me,the most boring, inactive and surly housemate for weeks when the series started.

All she has really shown me is her 2 faced side, where she has plenty to say bad about people but 'never' to their faces,only to others.
Hence her being caught out in vt playbacks and while others watched and heard her.

However, one thing I find myself irritating is her age being held up as she needs to be thought of as special because of that.
When my Mother was 18 she was married,had a baby and was running a home after marrying my Dad on her 17th Birthday.

Ashleigh is an adult,she was well able to apply and get on BB and her age should never be a factor.
Having said that, she has been one of the most miserable,surly and whining 18 year olds I have come across for most of the series.
Showing a really vindictive streak in that she cannot get to Helen so has used Ash to get at her.
If all we had in the house from the start was 16 Ashleigh's then as someone put it,watching paint dry would have been more exciting.

She has admittedly done and got better in the last 2 weeks,I readily admit to that and even moreso now Danielles gone.
All that however went before, is for me, probably how she really is and this new attitude is conveniently appearing in the run in to the final.

Back to who this thread is actually about, Helen, well she doesn't need to be any different really,she is already in the final, no matter what.
Whatever happens there won't really matter, both won't winin my view, and both are finalists.
This is also now the 2nd time Ashleigh has been given immunity for being nominated as well,so she has had help too.
Just as Helen has had great help, the public chose Pauline to be the power housemate,with that power from the public, Pauline was asked to select 'any' housemate for a free pass, she chose Helen.
Both have had good assistance to reach the final and as to Helen's journey, I would guess,only guess, that Helen has learned far more about herself than Ashleigh ever will as to herself.

[Jake.]

Did you not ask for why her fans support her? Of course it's not going to contain negative points.

[Daffodil]

She hasn't changed. It is just that everyone around her is treading on eggshells trying to be in her good books.