[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

HOW THE HELL Can you enjoy it with him there?

EQUALLY Its up to them how they play it.

They shouldn't give a flying **** about HIS experience.

You're a walking contradiction.

Perez has gone out of his way to make EVERYONE in their miserable, and drained.

Why the **** should they give him the time of day.

So its ok for another human being to behave like that but we've all got to welcome him with open arms anyway.

Get a grip

Its game and its up to all of them to play it how they want thus how the hell can they say someone else spoiled their experience, like Michelle has. If Perez has wound up the HM's then it up to them to deal with it as they see fit but for me that does not include group targeting of Perez. They are all grown people in the house and its up to them to get as much or as little out of the experiences as they can but I dont think they can, any of them, claim another spoiled it for them. What dont you understand and where the contradiction?

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

The irony of you telling somebody to get a grip when you have to go into massive paragraph mode every series when somebody even has the remote negative comment on your favourite is beautiful.

This isn't about my favourite its about the constant defending of Perez, when any sane minded person can see he's indefensible.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its game and its up to all of them to play it how they want thus how the hell can they say someone else spoiled their experience, like Michelle has. If Perez has wound up the HM's then it up to them to deal with it as they see fit but for me that does not include group targeting of Perez. They are all grown people in the house and its up to them to get as much or as little out of the experiences as they can but I dont think they can, any of them, claim another spoiled it for them. What dont you understand and where the contradiction?

What gives Perez the RIGHT to wind them up. He has no right.

They shouldn't HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT as they see fit. He shouldn't be allowed to goad and taunt.

simple cure.....completely ignore him.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She's totally lost and to think she thinks she still has a shot at wining. I dont deny Perez is a lot to take and he has tried to wind up most of the house but her big mates are picking on him for past crimes. She should have spoken up at some point given her status being such a leading light for the LGBT community she's failed to deal with obvious targeting by her friends.

He deserves everything he gets Michelle has just proven that it isnt just Katie H. He has had a go at those who wouldnt put up with his nonsense but has been nice to those he deemed his friends, his enablers. No one ever said to them to avoid him what they said was dont encourage him but they laughed and encouraged him. If it was their child they would have tanned his posterior and put him to bed. Oh no then the childcare would be brought in, no tanning .... aw ok then

[bots]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

What gives Perez the RIGHT to wind them up. He has no right.

They shouldn't HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT as they see fit. He shouldn't be allowed to goad and taunt.

simple cure.....completely ignore him.

He has every right to wind them up within the rules of the game, if he thinks it will win it for him. It is a game, not real life!

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

This isn't about my favourite its about the constant defending of Perez, when any sane minded person can see he's indefensible.

The funny or sad thing is. So was Helen's and she won. Down to who she had in the final five i feel.

But even Helen is like Mother Teresa compared to this vile human. It is all about KH.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

What gives Perez the RIGHT to wind them up. He has no right.

They shouldn't HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT as they see fit. He shouldn't be allowed to goad and taunt.

simple cure.....completely ignore him.

He hasnt broken the rules sufficiently to be kicked out so he can behave how he wants and if that involves winding up the other HM's then good man for providing entertainment.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

He has every right to wind them up within the rules of the game, if he thinks it will win it for him. It is a game, not real life!

With that logic they have EVERY RIGHT TO IGNORE HIM within the rules of the game

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

He hasnt broken the rules sufficiently to be kicked out so he can behave how he wants and if that involves winding up the other HM's then good man for providing entertainment.

He's done far more than several people who've been shown the door over the years.

he's very very lucky to still be there

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Jules2

He deserves everything he gets Michelle has just proven that it isnt just Katie H. He has had a go at those who wouldnt put up with his nonsense but has been nice to those he deemed his friends, his enablers. No one ever said to them to avoid him what they said was dont encourage him but they laughed and encouraged him. If it was their child they would have tanned his posterior and put him to bed. Oh no then the childcare would be brought in, no tanning .... aw ok then

There are no children in the house. Why are you comporting Perez to a child?

[bots]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

With that logic they have EVERY RIGHT TO IGNORE HIM within the rules of the game

yes, they do, just if they take that approach, i don't personally think its a formula that will produce a winner from those that chose to ignore

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

He's done far more than several people who've been shown the door over the years.

he's very very lucky to still be there

That may well be the case but the fact is he's still there.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, they do, just if they take that approach, i don't personally think its a formula that will produce a winner

We shall see. they after all the only ones with their head in line.

[bots]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

We shall see. they after all the only ones with their head in line.

For me, its crying out for someone like Michelle, to sit down with Perez and talk to him like an adult, resolve differences. KH will never do it, but Michelle could, and that would improve her chances of winning no end

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

There are no children in the house. Why are you comporting Perez to a child?

Well he is one big child, the point is we wouldnt let our own children get away with what he has done and said. As you say he is an adult but...........?

[cfromhx02]

Hopkins is a vile bully, who only picks on people when they have little to no support or after they are isolated.

Michelle yet again doesn't stand up for people,when she is supposed to stand up for those picked upon

and yet again betrays what she told us about when she came in the house.

She told us that she was well aware of KH's views online which she found appalling and not inline with her opinions in any way.

Perez was a tw*t early on, but he showed compassion toward Alicia and Patsy which KH never showed

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

For me, its crying out for someone like Michelle, to sit down with Perez and talk to him like an adult, resolve differences. KH will never do it, but Michelle could, and that would improve her chances of winning no end

Now now stop spoiling Perez' fun he loves it, it is what he is all about. I think Michelle has left it a bit to late to win now which is a shame because she was top of the shop at one time. There would have to be a massive change but as I said Telemix has her as second favourite so who knows eh.

[cfromhx02]

Perez and Hopkins are both still there. Both should not be backed to win but KH has never shown any thought of how any of her cruel treatments of people could have been wrong

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Hopkins is a vile bully, who only picks on people when they have little to no support or after they are isolated.

Michelle yet again doesn't stand up for people,when she is supposed to stand up for those picked upon

and yet again betrays what she told us about when she came in the house.

She told us that she was well aware of KH's views online which she found appalling and not inline with her opinions in any way.

Perez was a tw*t early on, but he showed compassion toward Alicia and Patsy which KH never showed

That word has well and truly outstayed its welcome.

Michelle doesn't ****ing police anyone in there. She doesn't need to stand up for anyone. Its enough she stands by her own convictions and opinion.

Perez is not a victim or a misfit. Hes a child.

[Denver]

No Perez you can go home on tuesday you can go home tomorrow

[CarolAnn]

Didn't Michelle, when talking to Katie P, after Katie P said she had no problems with Perez, didn't Michelle say she had no problem with Perez either, but when with Katie H. she doesn't like Perez.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by CarolAnn

Didn't Michelle, when talking to Katie P, after Katie P said she had no problems with Perez, didn't Michelle say she had no problem with Perez either, but when with Katie H. she doesn't like Perez.

Yes I heard that too. Michelle has more faces than big ben

[Northern Monkey]

Little crettin(Perez) should've been kicked out by now for his behaviour.I hope they make it as uncomfortable for him as possible.'The Perez show' got boring a long time ago.KH is a twat too tbf.Just a less annoying one.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Little crettin(Perez) should've been kicked out by now for his behaviour.I hope they make it as uncomfortable for him as possible.'The Perez show' got boring a long time ago.KH is a twat too tbf.Just a less annoying one.

I wish we could see the HMs without Perez & Katie for just 1 day and see if the HMs are any different. Maybe they could relax and we could see them having fun without worrying if Katie will kick off/complain or if Perez will go off on one of his little 'moments'

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

I wish we could see the HMs without Perez & Katie for just 1 day and see if the HMs are any different. Maybe they could relax and we could see them having fun without worrying if Katie will kick off/complain or if Perez will go off on one of his little 'moments'

Yeah it would be good to see how the others would get on with each other.If they would clash,Maybe Chloe vs Katie P or more Kav vs Cheggers or Maybe Michelle might be more interesting and clash with Pricey or Cami.Bored of Perez
and Hoppo now.2 peas from the same pod.