[keekee21]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It happens to me all the time. I'm just not good in groups. But these days i just don't care anymore what people think of me.

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by keekee21

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

And none of the above has he brought upon himself? Please explain?

[keekee21]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

And none of the above has he brought upon himself? Please explain?

I cannot explain really, if it did not happen to me then I would agree with everything you say, you have to go through being ostracised in order to understand how socially impactful it is, most people just say, why do you care so much but it is human nature.


He is annoying, he is loud, he has got aspersers (probably) but no-one in life deserves to feel so bad that they compare it to their fathers death. I really believe that he was being honest as I said when people "exclude" you intentionally, and ignore you, it is like you are dead but still alive.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by keekee21

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

Kav was just drunk too and you said..........

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

he's very strong and normally he gives as good as he gets. but he was drunk and he just blurted it all out. the BB facebook page is full of people asking for KH to stop bullying Perez.

The BB facebook page is cringe to read so I am sure they are. They were also defending Perez yesterday over his comments towards Calum and blaming Katie Hopkins and even Calum himself for being in the room. They're simply there to be laughed at.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by keekee21

Scientifically it has been proved being ostrazised is worse than being bullied, as humans we are naturally more comfortable in groups and when people shun you it hurts, deeply. It takes this type of experience to gain a hard skin and once ostrazised you do care a little less about people's thoughts of your character - and care less which is good.

I honestly think he was being truthful when he said it was painful, and I don't really like him that much... but I would not wish that type of ostracization on anyone. No-one deserves what they are doing to him in that house. I feel sorry for him and it will take many years for him to get over it.

Part of me hopes he stays in and "fights" it but the other part hope he walks for his own mental wellbeing, I think he has mental issues anyway.

He is not being ostracised, he was drunk. He sits with KP and Keith as Katie H sits with Michelle and co. He has the ability to sit with anyone he wants, he is trying to take over with their fun, far from being ostracised, they were all laughing with him when he suggested they each give their drunkest moments.

Keith was a bit uncomfortable and sort of walked away, dont blame him really with the stories which were coming out. He had the floor, hardly being ostracised. He is playing for the sympathy votes against Katie Hopkins, he really wants to stay in the house until the end, this will make him feel great as he will feel he has won over. KH. who in turn has told him that the public will keep him in because of the way he is acting.

If he doesnt want KH to banter with him then walk away or dont start anything. He loves the attention though because he knows it will give both of them airtime thus he divides and possibly conquers, he knows what he is doing.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by keekee21

Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

He ostracised himself, he chose to just run with Nadia his enabler. Even now he could join in if he wants to. He will take the reins so I do not feel sorry for him at all, he is a good actor and wants to win by hook or by crook.

[keekee21]

Originally Posted by Jules2

He ostracised himself, he chose to just run with Nadia his enabler. Even now he could join in if he wants to. He will take the reins so I do not feel sorry for him at all, he is a good actor and wants to win by hook or by crook.

He was being ostrazised by the others way before when KH started to create it, which resulted in him being pals with Nadia.

[jscoo47]

Originally Posted by keekee21

Being ostrazised by a group of people is one of the worse things anyone can go through. I believe him when he said it is worse than his fathers death, that is how it felt when it happened to me. Have some compassion.

KH made those comments about isolating him after all his terrible behaviour and after Alexander walked. Everybody was moaning about him and doing nothing. After losing his ally he became reflective. It is a shame he could not reflect on his behaviour before then.

Sadly the phase "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.

P

[Vanessa]

I think BB will tell Hopkins to stop bulling Perez. If she continues she will not win. People will pile on the votes for anyone who is against her in the final. Like it happened with Dexter.

[mazerunner_888]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think BB will tell Hopkins to stop bulling Perez. If she continues she will not win. People will pile on the votes for anyone who is against her in the final. Like it happened with Dexter.

If she wins I will literally spit on my tv screen.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jscoo47

KH made those comments about isolating him after all his terrible behaviour and after Alexander walked. Everybody was moaning about him and doing nothing. After losing his ally he became reflective. It is a shame he could not reflect on his behaviour before then.

Sadly the phase "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.

P

There's been worse than Perez that has entered that house, and most sane Housemates didn't try to isolate them from the whole house.

And the public wasn't so sick as to revel in it if it ever did come to pass.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There's been worse than Perez that has entered that house, and most sane Housemates didn't try to isolate them from the whole house.

And the public wasn't so sick as to revel in it if it ever did come to pass.

Why would the housemates left want to hang out with Pratez? They want to hang out with him because...................?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Why would the housemates left want to hang out with Pratez? They want to hang out with him because...................?

Maybe because they actually would have fun in the house instead of following Squidward all the time.

[Liam-]

I don't like seeing nice, innocent people being isolated for no good reason, that is appalling.

Perez is neither nice, nor innocent, he deserves to be ostracized for the way he has treated people throughout the series, i have no sympathy for him whatsoever.. in fact, it actually brings me a bit of joy to see him miserable

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I don't like seeing nice, innocent people being isolated for no good reason, that is appalling.

Perez is neither nice, nor innocent, he deserves to be ostracized for the way he has treated people throughout the series, i have no sympathy for him whatsoever.. in fact, it actually brings me a bit of joy to see him miserable

It is another sad act aided by booze.

He has not listened to HM's or BB when warned.

Crappy scum.

[Johnnyuk123]

Anyone else buying the Pratez sympathy vote besides the ever so predictable trolls?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Anyone else buying the Pratez sympathy vote besides the ever so predictable trolls?

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.

[bots]

he is so upset ....

Originally Posted by Twitter Robot

twitter.com/bbuklive

[mazerunner_888]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.

Like Katie Hopkins, it does seem to me likely that those who support Katie Hopkins, and it is their right to do so if they believe she is a good person and does right,are possibly more eager to talk about Perez by making threads about him.
However to call those who defend him trolls, at times I add because we who 'like' him do see and point out his faults too in the main,is out of line in my view.

I don't fall for things easily and resent being inferred I would, and I don't believe this was for show from Perez,I have already said enough on this earlier on this thread.
He is likely broken at this moment in time, there comes a time for reflection and the alcohol will have probably brought him down too.

He started that game where they talked about being drunk, it may have hit him that things could have been different in there but he also knows there is the 'gorgon',with snakes for hair,(Katie Hopkins that is), who would have him turned into stone if she could, hissing all the time and setting out to bring him down and 'influence' others to ostracise him.

She has no right to do that at all,no right to even just 'suggest' it,living with someone in that scenario,knowing they are trying to get you ostracised, must be literally near unbearable.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Like Katie Hopkins, it does seem to me likely that those who support Katie Hopkins, and it is their right to do so if they believe she is a good person and does right,are possibly more eager to talk about Perez by making threads about him.
However to call those who defend him trolls, at times I add because we who 'like' him do see and point out his faults too in the main,is out of line in my view.

I don't fall for things easily and resent being inferred I would, and I don't believe this was for show from Perez,I have already said enough on this earlier on this thread.
He is likely broken at this moment in time, there comes a time for reflection and the alcohol will have probably brought him down too.

He started that game where they talked about being drunk, it may have hit him that things could have been different in there but he also knows there is the 'gorgon',with snakes for hair,(Katie Hopkins that is), who would have him turned into stone if she could, hissing all the time and setting out to bring him down and 'influence' others to ostracise him.

She has no right to do that at all,no right to even just 'suggest' it,living with someone in that scenario,knowing they are trying to get you ostracised, must be literally near unbearable.

I 100% agree with you Joey.

And certain people calling FB posters pathetic when they report people, and Ignore people at a drop of a hat is quite amusing.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I 100% agree with you Joey.

And certain people calling FB posters pathetic when they report people, and Ignore people at a drop of a hat is quite amusing.

The other things is Mock,he will have brought a lot to mind likely since Nadia went.
He may even be blaming himself for her going too.

He also knew 100% while she was in the house, he could never have been ostracised, she would have always been with him.
Despite Katie Price and Keith being okay with him, he no longer has that certainty of not being so with Katie Hopkins still 'at' him.

To deliberately set out to and organise others to ostracise someone,well that does come nearer bullying than anything else that has happened thus far in this series.

I am sorry to hear some members here say they have been ostracised,it must be a really horrible thing to happen to anyone and cause them massive distress.
Something not to be laughed at,supported or applauded but condemned at every opportunity in my opinion.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think supporting a bully is more trollish, but whatever floats your boat.

Oops! that last part might have been verbal rape.

And you are supporting Perez.

Whatever floats your boat! An unsteady boat.