[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by Lauren

I can see your point, but as many people have already mentioned - not all drugs have long term affects on peoples lives. Just something to take into account.

Yes of course
But they do really effect long term users

Look at Pete Doherty- what a mess and all becuase of drugs
But I do feel sorry for him, people critisise him and not help him

[Feral]

Oldie not youngie here!!!!!

- Do you use drugs?

If you mean regulary now I can say no -- stopped smoking Hash/weed/cannibas at Christmas, got sick of buying it, getting it, sitting about with a hazy stare all evening. I had been a regular toker for 12 years.

- Have you ever used drugs, and if so, do you regret it?

E's (not much) Cocaine (now and again) Acid (three times) Mushrooms (good for a laugh) Amphetimine/Speed ( a couple of times, good for weight loss but you can lose your teeth, knocks Calcium out of your body) did a bit of brown (once - crap!!! stared a ceiling, fell asleep) home made Opium (threw up, stared at ceiling, fell asleep) Should never regret anything in life - just wanted to see what they did. Use don't abuse - learn about the pro's and cons before taking - education is key.

- Do any of your friends use drugs, and if so, how do you feel about this?

Majority of 'mates' tokers or was - started looking at them differently lately, all bums sitting about playing XBox and/or moaning or depressed.I have a good job, love life ,got get up and go just want more out of life now - if not money! Cannot do that stoned all the time, no motivation to do anything.

- What do you think of people who do use drugs?

I hate Junkies (smack, crack) have drummed that in my head an d have no intention of ever hanging around with 'people' who do that. This answer is tricky as people are fine if do now and again - but I have seen the victims of drug use from those who live in a parellell dimension due to too much acid, paranoid freaks who have done too much cocaine, people with major depression from too much hash and the like, psychosis from Skunk. Defo got stronger over the years and I think now Skunk is becoming the more dangerous because it is compared with hash and they are no way the same should be Class A and stay there.

- Do you class all drugs the same?

No and yes - again hard to answer on a forum,
Skunk, Cocaine, Heroin, Crystal Meths, Kettamine, K, Crack, smack, Oil -CLASS A
Hash (solid) E (one pill) - CLASS B
See it's not necessary the drug but how much and what with - someone did a bit of coke with Viagra!!! Said it got them right off but on their own in moderation - OK. Education again.

- What do you think of "recreational drug use"?

Define recreational - the odd joint maybe OK a line now and again OK but not everyday all day. Education again.

- Do you consider some drugs to be safe?

No drug is safe!!!! Alters your mind and perception and behaviour - down to the individual on how they can process what it is doing to them and how they cope with the effects and what damage it does long term. Christ even pharmacuticals are dangerous!!!

- Would you like to see any drugs legalised/decriminalised?

Would not make a blind bit of difference to the market - maybe clean some of it up ie 'E' testing at clubs, but there will always be a black market. Alcohol and tobacco is legal but people buy it cheap of a back of a lorry. Perhaps there would be a few individuals who would not be interested because the 'cool' factor would go. Debatable.

- Do you class all drug users the same?

Two types - Drug users - drugs abusers.

- Do you think the current methadone program is worthwhile?

Er no!!!!!! like prev answers, methodone is the hardest drug to come off, *ucks your body and you become chemicalised. Better going cold turkey and go through the detox.
Millions of pounds is being wasted on it. Most sell it on.
There was an experiment in Liverpool as an alternative to Meth called 'reefer' (forget the real name of the chemical, cigerette was dipped into it) much worse and people just saved them up and sold them on to by Heroin!!

- Do you think that kids are well enough educated nowadays about the risks of drugs?

Not sure - I would like to think they were properly educated, unless 'Frank' knows all!!! I believe in choice - but then I educated myself - effects, long term damage, possibles if all goes wrong.

If a friend is pushing drugs onto you -- they are not your friend.

Make your own mind up after you have educated yourself.

Make your own choices - it's you that will have to live with the consequences.

Try not to do anything before you are at least 18 - - the young brain should be cared for and still growing and connecting - don't spoil it!!! You will need it in later life.

Spend your own money - if you cannot afford it then you shouldn't be doing it!!!

Hope it helps!!!! Need a coffee!!!!!!!!!!

Take care.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Feral_One
did a bit of brown (once - c**p!!! stared a ceiling, fell asleep)

Whats brown?
And whats a toker?

Sorry I'm really naive to all this drug malarky.

[Sophii3x]

Wow Feral_One you know a lot about drugs

Are you clean now? If so.. well done

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by Lauren

Whats brown?
And whats a toker?

Sorry I'm really naive to all this drug malarky.

Brown = heroin

Toker = Smoker

Yes ladies, we're dealing with one messed up skanky junkie here.

[Feral]

[quote]Originally posted by Lauren

Originally posted by Feral_One
did a bit of brown (once - c**p!!! stared a ceiling, fell asleep)

Whats brown? Heroin

And whats a toker? Someone who smokes weed/ cannabis (Toke on a joint)

Sorry I'm really naive to all this drug malarky.

No need to laugh - always asks questions - good to know the answers.

Feel free to ask me anything!

[Feral]

Originally posted by The_Hitman


Yes ladies, we're dealing with one messed up skanky junkie here.

If you saw me you wouldn't have known!!!!

[Lauren]

Nothing like a bit of shameless self promotion on a topic titled "Serious Debate"
Nah, only kidding - but you probably coulda U2U'd the pic?

Anyway, in response to your post about the drugs you've done - in the end I feel it's anyones choice to take drugs as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. And obviously in your case it's only affecting you -

Most people have taken drugs for the experience, mainly during their younger years but it seems not many people carry it on any further than that. Why is that? And what makes you want to carry on? Do you ALWAYS get a buzz from it, or have their been bad experiences?

[Feral]

Originally posted by Lauren
Nothing like a bit of shameless self promotion on a topic titled "Serious Debate"
Nah, only kidding - but you probably coulda U2U'd the pic?

Anyway, in response to your post about the drugs you've done - in the end I feel it's anyones choice to take drugs as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. And obviously in your case it's only affecting you -

Most people have taken drugs for the experience, mainly during their younger years but it seems not many people carry it on any further than that. Why is that? And what makes you want to carry on? Do you ALWAYS get a buzz from it, or have their been bad experiences?

Pic removed!! Sorry.

Back to the debate....................

[ttw]

Where I live the majority of people (well that I know of) smoke weed or have smoked weed but rarely progress onto anything heavier, although there are a few crackheads around.

I wouldn't class weed the same as say heroin, as it doesn't have as extreme damaging effects. Alot of people I know that smoke weed lead normal lives and the weed doesn't effect their lives. But weed does effect some people in small ways but without them knowing it.

I used to smoke but don't any more just because I feel I don't really need to, but saying that I still drink and that is worse then smoking for me because when I smoke I am never falling on the floor or waking up with a banging headache and vomiting everywhere lol

Alcohol is a drug it has the same effects as other drugs, it's just legal because the government want to make money.

I see far more drunks around causing trouble then I do people smoking weed & causing trouble.

"I got five on it"

[~Kizwiz~]

This is a tricky one for me as I've moved away from a part of my life that was shrouded in drugs. So I will try and answer honestly.

- Do you use drugs?
I did, not anymore

- Have you ever used drugs, and if so, do you regret it?
Yes and no, they have given me some great experiences and some horrid ones
The move away helped me break the habit. I believe that if i stayed where I was, the destructive relationship would have lead me down a path of serious addiction. Having said that, I now know not to put myself in any situation where I could be offered it again..... once an addict always an addict

- Do any of your friends use drugs, and if so, how do you feel about this?
I was in two circles of friend, ones who used weed in a recreational way and the other group was a far more addictive substance. I'm glad I dont do it anymore but i'm not in the circle of friends anymore.

- What do you think of people who do use drugs?
Its their choice

- Do you class all drugs the same?
No...... not at all

- What do you think of "recreational drug use"?
Like I said, its their choice

- Do you consider some drugs to be safe?
in the right hands yes, The natural drugs like weed and shrooms are ok if treated and respected for what they are

- Would you like to see any drugs legalised/decriminalised?
Weed for medical use only

- Do you class all drug users the same?
No... you cant class someone who smokes a bit of blow at the weekend as a junkie on heroin

- Do you think the current methadone program is worthwhile?
No..... they need to be monitored far more closely and have greater support to be able to come off it

- Do you think that kids are well enough educated nowadays about the risks of drugs?
Absolutely not.....kids need examples..... send an ex addict in and let the kids ask questions

[Ella]

I don't like to admit it, but i'm hoping I won't get judged to much by members of the forum. I used to do Cocaine on a regular basis, Usually when I was out clubbing..It gave me a high that alcohol could never give me, then I started getting frequent nose bleeds so I decided to stop, I haven't done Charlie for ages now. Thank God I didn't get addicted to it.

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I don't like to admit it, but i'm hoping I won't get judged to much by members of the forum. I used to do Cocaine on a regular basis, Usually when I was out clubbing..It gave me a high that alcohol could never give me, then I started getting frequent nose bleeds so I decided to stop, I haven't done Charlie for ages now. Thank God I didn't get addicted to it.

No one will judge you Ella!

[Ella]

Originally posted by Sophii3x

No one will judge you Ella!

Hehe that's good then, It's all in the past anyway and i'm not ashamed to admit it. I would never go back to that again though << Even Bob agrees

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by Elz_Belz

Hehe that's good then, It's all in the past anyway and i'm not ashamed to admit it. I would never go back to that again though << Even Bob agrees

hehe Bob does agree
I'm glad you stopped taking cocaine, especially when it was effecting your health.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Elz_Belz
I don't like to admit it, but i'm hoping I won't get judged to much by members of the forum. I used to do Cocaine on a regular basis, Usually when I was out clubbing..It gave me a high that alcohol could never give me, then I started getting frequent nose bleeds so I decided to stop, I haven't done Charlie for ages now. Thank God I didn't get addicted to it.

I never judge anyone..... its good not to hide it. i think once we do that then it becomes mysterious and thats why kids try it... to see whats its like.

I like you I used to do Charlie on a regular basis I worked in a stockbrokers and it was the norm. They all did it.... partied too hard on it and then used it to get through the day. I'm not proud of what i did but then I met Red, my circumstances changed and I grew up. I realized what I had going for me and what was in my future.

After moving back home for a while I've now moved to Leeds with Red, the prospect of going back to work is mixed. I love working but I dont want to put myself anywhere near the kind of environment I was in.

[lily.]

Go for a career change Kiz. That might be just what you need.

Feral, very open and honest response there also. And, it's good that others can ask questions as well. We can all learn something from this debate.

Ella, nobody will judge you. I'm glad people are being honest in this topic. I was a bit worried that nobody would say anything and I would be left looking like the mad druggie. But, everyone has been very upfront, and nobody has been judgemental. I'm glad you stopped doing C though. Good on you.

Anthony, I pretty much agree with your views on hash/weed. I don't see it as a big deal either, and don't find it worrying that you smoke it. Oh, and off-topic.. love your avvy! hahaha..

Lauren, you are right when you say that most people seem to outgrow it. I find that my peer group outgrew it for different reasons. Some people's lifestyle changed, or their jobs, or they got into or out of a relationship. Sometimes it's when you move into a different circle of friends. For me it was a combination of things... but mainly it was due to a particularly bad experience with a few dodgy E's. That was a wake-up call for me, and I decided that enough was enough, and that I didn't want to be the next face on the front page of the Daily Record. If it weren't for that I would have outgrown it though I'm sure. I was almost 20 at that point and my life was changing loads.. job, friends etc.. and my relationship was getting serious, so I had a future to look forward to, instead of just living in the present, which I had been doing for so long.

I don't regret any of my past experiences, but I live my whole life that way. I believe every life experience is character building in some way, and I wouldn't be the person I am today if it weren't for the experiences I have had in my past. So, since I'm happy with my life today, there's no room for regrets.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Stropz
Go for a career change Kiz. That might be just what you need.

You might be right there honey.

I never regret what I have done. Life is for living. These experiences I had with drugs has made me aware of my limits and now I know not to go into situations where I could be dragged back in.

But its also made me aware on how i can talk to my children and give them my experiences when the time is right to make sure they know the dangers involved.

[Emilee]

I think people who take drugs have made a stupid mistake to even try them (same with smokers) - if you dont try it you'll never knoew if you like it or not.

However, I do think that cannabis should be legalised for people like my mom with MS (multiple sclerosis) to relieve the pain. Even though there are always consequences with taking any drug.

Other than that, I feel sorry for drug users, because they are addicted to it, and the drug is now overpowering their brain. I blame it on the drug dealers, they are out to ******* up peoples lives for a bit of cash, its not right.

[Siouxsie]

I tried E many years ago. At the time it was a great laugh. All my soft toys came to life and my plants started dancing around the room. I thought everything around me was hilariouse. I slept for about two days afterwards. It was very frightening. Everything i touched seemed to feel like sponge. My mind was completely took over, Once was enough for me. I will stick to the vodka thank you.

[Emilee]

OMG! drug use sounds scary, never ever going to try it!

Whats E?

[Siouxsie]

Ecstasy

[easypeasy]

glad im not the only one who's had a "experimental" youth.hehe.

[lily.]

Far from it easypeasy. I think you would find that most people in our age group have a "shady past". It was the thing to do at the time.

[Ruth]

I don't know anyone who hasn't smoked cannabis. I would never try anything harder (unless you count alcohol - and there are far more fights and criminal acts committed by people who are drunk than by people who are stoned), but I have no problem with people smoking cannabis.