[Tom4784]

He needs to be firm with her, he's kind of sending mixed signals at the moment. If he truly wants to put their relationship on ice until after they leave the house then he needs to commit to it. He can't tell her one thing and then get lap dances from her a few hours later.

He's trying to let her down gently but he needs to make a decision and stick to it because he's doing her no favours by being wishy washy about it.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He needs to be firm with her, he's kind of sending mixed signals at the moment. If he truly wants to put their relationship on ice until after they leave the house then he needs to commit to it. He can't tell her one thing and then get lap dances from her a few hours later.

He's trying to let her down gently but he needs to make a decision and stick to it because he's doing her no favours by being wishy washy about it.

I think he may know something we don't know ...and may be protecting her from a public meltdown that could finish her.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He needs to be firm with her, he's kind of sending mixed signals at the moment. If he truly wants to put their relationship on ice until after they leave the house then he needs to commit to it. He can't tell her one thing and then get lap dances from her a few hours later.

He's trying to let her down gently but he needs to make a decision and stick to it because he's doing her no favours by being wishy washy about it.

This! I agree 100%. He needs to tell her that it's over and he's not interested.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He needs to be firm with her, he's kind of sending mixed signals at the moment. If he truly wants to put their relationship on ice until after they leave the house then he needs to commit to it. He can't tell her one thing and then get lap dances from her a few hours later.

He's trying to let her down gently but he needs to make a decision and stick to it because he's doing her no favours by being wishy washy about it.

Agree. I do think that even if he does this she will still look desperate. I kind of feel sorry for her as I dont think there is any way she can look good coming out of this relationship.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think he thinks, after i get out of here I will have a lot of birds after me and I am going to have fun choosing -

as foe Chaz well he has done her..next

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think he thinks, after i get out of here I will have a lot of birds after me and I am going to have fun choosing -

as foe Chaz well he has done her..next

I don't think that at all .. i think he is very guarded.. careful with what he says..I think he puts on a brave front but deep down is a big softie...

He does however need to improve in his choices of types of women.. less by looks (stripper) more by personality / not a bunny boiler

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Best post this week

Thank you Sam, coming from one who I regard as THE expert on BB, that is one huge compliment.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by hot2go

We've had hardly any posts on Jason so far, good to have one from someone who's had first hand experience of what Jason's going through. Thanks for being brave enough to share that with us.
Steve.

Thanks Hot2Go - I appreciate it.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Great post Kirk,said as it is,love reading your stuff.

Thank you my beautiful blonde.

(I am just so relieved you still love me after my attacks on Dave - I am still all Gerard though. )

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

I don't think that at all .. i think he is very guarded.. careful with what he says..I think he puts on a brave front but deep down is a big softie...

He does however need to improve in his choices of types of women.. less by looks (stripper) more by personality / not a bunny boiler

also not one 17 years his junior

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

also not one 17 years his junior

LOL


He could do so much better ... hell i'd invade the house and carry him out with a firemans lift..'offcer and a gent style' cuff him to my sink and he could be my new dishwasher in a mankini

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by sampvt

sometimes facts need to be strung out to tell the full picture and if Kirk spent time on a well thought out and logical post, he needs to be congratulated, not slated. Some people have literary skills, some don't.

I agree. Mainly because he usually says what I am thinking and saves me a heck of a lot of typing.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

I agree. Mainly because he usually says what I am thinking and saves me a heck of a lot of typing.

Great minds uh Jenny? Thank you love.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

Brilliant post....totally agree with your point.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

One big difference between Laura and Big Ben though...,not everyone's been up Big Ben

Good one hot2go

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Thank you my beautiful blonde.

(I am just so relieved you still love me after my attacks on Dave - I am still all Gerard though. )

As if I'de chose Dave over you Kirk ,as for Gerard nothing needs to be said

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I think he may know something we don't know ...and may be protecting her from a public meltdown that could finish her.

He does seem worried about if she flips and I thought the same as you hot2go

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Brilliant post....totally agree with your point.

Hi Rusticgal - Sincere thanks for the compliment. I really do appreciate it.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

As if I'de chose Dave over you Kirk ,as for Gerard nothing needs to be said

Phewww!!!

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He does seem worried about if she flips and I thought the same as you hot2go

He's a decent guy...he looks out for all of them....he may have reservations about going back out with Charlie but he clearly still cares for her and he is not gonna give BB what they want ...he's not gonna incite trouble that cud result in her being ridiculed or disgraced in any way...I think he's doing the only thing he can do in his situation and I have a lot of respect for him because of that.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by hot2go

He's a decent guy...he looks out for all of them....he may have reservations about going back out with Charlie but he clearly still cares for her and he is not gonna give BB what they want ...he's not gonna incite trouble that cud result in her being ridiculed or disgraced in any way...I think he's doing the only thing he can do in his situation and I have a lot of respect for him because of that.

Yep... bang on!

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by hot2go

When Laura said Marco wouldnt take no for an answer some people called him a predator ... Even tho the silly cow had her legs wrapped round him again 2 hours later.

But when Jason said Charlie won't take no for an answer those same people say he's playing the victim.

A lot of sexism taking place. One rule for girls and another one for men.

Sooooo.. only women are sexist then. Interesting.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Originally Posted by parmnion

she'll be telling him she's pregnant next.

Wow! Would that be an ugly baby?

[Speedster]

The misogyny on here is unreal. She can't win; if she stopped having anything to do do with him she'd be an caring b*** all of a sudden, or fickle, insincere.

At the moment she's "bunny-boiler", potentially unstable, a stalker, a lowly stripper and too young for him (he chose her,how can the age difference be her problem if he chose he.

It's good being a guy. You can get away with murder.

[hot2go]

[QUOTE=Speedster;8747094]Sooooo.. only women are sexist then.

Oh read the post properly please.....who said anything about it being only women who are being sexist ?

There's clearly a different attitude on here from some people regarding Lauras situation with Marco ...and Jason's situation with Charlie.

Laura said back off and he did....Marco still got called a Predator
Jason said back off and she didn't....Charlie gets called a victim.

That's sexism.....and the hypocricy is from a mixture of male and female posts.

This is not some dreary " Only Women Bleed " debate about women always getting the blame...,if you want to make it about that than do it with someone other than me please.