[Dollface]

How ridiculous would our country look if we voted again and this time decided to remain in the EU? Imo it's stupid to want another vote, the decision has been made. There's lots of decisions in life where you don't get a second chance, this should be one of them.

[Kizzy]

No, I think the EU are done with us now we negotiated a deal in feb and still voted out, there are areas within the EU with much bigger problems than us so I think they are well within their rights to say ok UK foff now we have other things to do.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

well actually the stock market has pretty much recovered most of the losses already after just 5 days lol

The stock market is global, if anything global markets recovering quickly in only an indication that (thankfully) the UK's status isn't as integral to global stability as some might have thought / dreamed. It's really no indication of the situation for the UK itself.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No, I think the EU are done with us now we negotiated a deal in feb and still voted out, there are areas within the EU with much bigger problems than us so I think they are well within their rights to say ok UK foff now we have other things to do.

To be fair Kizzy that's too extreme to be realistic. With the UK being a net "customer" for the EU (buying more than selling) a complete "f off" would create large holes in those countries' budgets. More likely is that the UK simply won't be able to negotiate terms that are even close to as favourable as they would like and so will end up "short" compared to trading within the union. There dies simply have to be a deal of some description... It's just this idea of Britain "dictating the terms" that is pure fantasy.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The stock market is global, if anything global markets recovering quickly in only an indication that (thankfully) the UK's status isn't as integral to global stability as some might have thought / dreamed. It's really no indication of the situation for the UK itself.

To be fair Kizzy that's too extreme to be realistic. With the UK being a net "customer" for the EU (buying more than selling) a complete "f off" would create large holes in those countries' budgets. More likely is that the UK simply won't be able to negotiate terms that are even close to as favourable as they would like and so will end up "short" compared to trading within the union. There dies simply have to be a deal of some description... It's just this idea of Britain "dictating the terms" that is pure fantasy.

nope Im talking about ftse which is almost back where it started

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No, I think the EU are done with us now we negotiated a deal in feb and still voted out, there are areas within the EU with much bigger problems than us so I think they are well within their rights to say ok UK foff now we have other things to do.

That attitude will backfire, it will massively hurt their own economies as uk buys more of their stuff than anyone else. uk is the richest per head country in europe and without any UK input a far bigger financial burden will fall upon germany and france to basically subsidise the long line of virtually bankrupt countries. The EU simply has to renegotiate its open borders ruling. As it stands


as usual the greatest visoinary poet of all time predicted this all


"The Times They Are A-Changin'"

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

uk is the richest per head country in europe

Errrrr I'm not sure where you're getting those figures Truth - we're 10th or 11th

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Errrrr I'm not sure where you're getting those figures Truth - we're 10th or 11th

lol were the 5th biggest economy in the world....our gdp per head is higher than france or germany....yes monaco is a higher gdp but theyre just an island of playboys

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by the truth

lol were the 5th biggest economy in the world....our gdp per head is higher than france or germany....yes monaco is a higher gdp but theyre just an island of playboys

True

[Kizzy]

Yes that's sort of what I meant not a total FU but we will just have to go through the channels of all the other non EU countries with regard to negotiation, hence him putting a stop to private consultation with EU leaders directly.

[_Tom_]

The only petition worth signing:

https://www.change.org/p/boris-johns...ns-in-brussels

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

The only petition worth signing:

https://www.change.org/p/boris-johns...ns-in-brussels

God no, keep the hypocritical bobblehead away from it all. He's done enough damage.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

The only petition worth signing:

https://www.change.org/p/boris-johns...ns-in-brussels

No, nope and never... in that order.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

The only petition worth signing:

https://www.change.org/p/boris-johns...ns-in-brussels

You can keep it

[Liberty4eva]

Next time the UK has the referendum the choices ought to be...

1. I want Britain to remain a member of the European Union
2. I need more time (and another referendum) to be educated on how foolish it would be to leave the EU

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Next time the UK has the referendum the choices ought to be...

1. I want Britain to remain a member of the European Union
2. I need more time (and another referendum) to be educated on how foolish it would be to leave the EU

Don't forget number 3.

3: If the result does not go my way we keep on having a vote until it does.

[the truth]

up to 3.97 million now

[Tom4784]

The only thing worse than Brexit would be to instantly flip flop on it. We've got no real choice but to reap what we've sown at this point.

[_Tom_]

The man's got a point.

Youtube video

[the truth]

4.1 million now

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

4.1 million now

Really the truth, has it got that high,it was adjusted a few days ago by just over 100,000 after investigation I understand,
Has it now again actually risen to that level now.
That is quite a figure.

[the truth]

yep 4.1 million, not sure how corrupt this is , shame really. if it had been 100% legitimate and unspolit a number like this could have created some waves

[arista]

Numbers have of Frauds in them / Outside the UK


Not valid

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Numbers have of Frauds in them / Outside the UK


Not valid

They have dealt with that arista and removed names from it already I understand.
This that is left, is now the legitimate figure,I never signed it, no way do I want another referendum after the insulting last vile one.

I hadn't realised it was to the 4 million mark however.

If however it was still getting fraudulent names on it, it would be removed, not allowed to continue.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They have dealt with that arista and removed names from it already I understand.
This that is left, is now the legitimate figure,I never signed it, no way do I want another referendum after the insulting last vile one.

I hadn't realised it was to the 4 million mark however.

If however it was still getting fraudulent names on it, it would be removed, not allowed to continue.

Yes the First batch


No they will never remove it

But more to be auto and human checked

[microscope]

The current population of the United Kingdom is 65,113,183 as of Sunday, July 3, 2016, based on the latest United Nations estimates. The estimated cost of conducting the EU referendum has been put at £142.4million. And all of a sudden the remain-camp are not happy that 48% of the 30+ million that voted didn't get what they wanted, well that's tough luck I'm afraid. Blame the 35million who didn't vote then as well as the 15+million who did vote for leave, but it's all hindsight now and it's better to look forward than going backwards and even if there was a second referendum, there is no guarantees that the remain-camp would win and the £142.4million that was spent organizing the whole thing you would never get back and you would have to spend all that money again and all the money that has been wiped off the financial markets, you would never get back either, so it's all rather pointless.