[smudgie]

Saira is a silly patronising woman.
Marnie is a just a young girl with half a brain.
Bear is a nasty piece of work.
Heavy D seems a nice enough fella so far.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Saira is a silly patronising woman.
Marnie is a just a young girl with half a brain.
Bear is a nasty piece of work.
Heavy D seems a nice enough fella so far.

Marnie is a 24year old woman, not that young, even with only half a brain.

[jennyfromtheblock8]

The simple answer for me is all parties are in the wrong. Saira can't see how passive aggressive she is and the others responded like angry children.

[Mystic Mock]

I understand Bear and Marnie, but Heavy D didn't do anything that badly to her, and even apologised to her afterwards, and Lewis did one nasty thing to her tonight when he set Marnie's boobs on her, but other than that he didn't really do anything like Bear or Marnie did to her.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I understand Bear and Marnie, but Heavy D didn't do anything that badly to her, and even apologised to her afterwards, and Lewis did one nasty thing to her tonight when he set Marnie's boobs on her, but other than that he didn't really do anything like Bear or Marnie did to her.

No, it was Bear who said to show her tits to Saira, not Lewis. Lewis only said to go and apologise to her.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No, it was Bear who said to show her tits to Saira, not Lewis. Lewis only said to go and apologise to her.

I thought Bear and Lewis dared Marnie to do the boobs thing, fair enough if I'm wrong on the Lewis front.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I thought Bear and Lewis dared Marnie to do the boobs thing, fair enough if I'm wrong on the Lewis front.

No, Lewis told Marnie to apologise to Saira. Then Bear said to show her her tits. Bear took it to far, i didn't like that.

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I thought Bear and Lewis dared Marnie to do the boobs thing, fair enough if I'm wrong on the Lewis front.

Yeah I feel like Marnie was egged on by all of group, not just Bear (although he was definitely the ringleader)

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Yeah I feel like Marnie was egged on by all of group, not just Bear (although he was definitely the ringleader)

Lewis did not tell her to show her tits, that was Bear.

[Mullens123]

Send Jayne back in to annihilate them please

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

There was me watching Lewis make sure Saira could have her say.

When you people who have a pathological need to turn a housemate into a "victim" so you can congratulate yourselves for heroically coming to their defence on twitter and internet forums, must the truth be buried always?

I don't mind Lewis, Heavy D seems like a harmless dummy rather than nasty. Marine and Bear I have no time for. But the truth is that Saira is one of the most patronising, condescending, sneering women I've ever seen on this show. But you carry on all you, making out that people who are fed up with her sneering at them and are speaking out against it, are in fact vicious bullies. Live in that self righteous bubble and spin your bull**** narrative. Some of us will not though.

[hot2go]

The person who went too far was Marnie....she was the one who got her tits out.....totally disrespectful...I didn't hear Bear tell her to get her tits out, I thought he suggested she ask the question not to expose herself ....but either way, it Marnie who actually did that and went too far.

[azi]

I'm not here for this. Bullying is not entertaining.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by azi

I'm not here for this. Bullying is not entertaining.

They haven't bullied her yet though.

Bullying is repeated offenses on one or more individuals, they've done one thing to her, and when we say they it was mainly Marnie.

[camertone]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

the young ostracize the old..

[Semtex]

What they did to Saira was out of order. Horrible bastards.

But on the other hand Saira has achieved what she set out to be, the victim.

Well played.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Semtex

What they did to Saira was out of order. Horrible bastards.

But on the other hand Saira has achieved what she set out to be, the victim.

Well played.

And what's funny is that some of the ones that saw through Jason don't conveniently see through Saira.

And even better is the ones that didn't see through Jason can conveniently see through Saira.

And people on here say that there's no bias towards certain Housemates that fit certain demographics.

[Semtex]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

And what's funny is that some of the ones that saw through Jason don't conveniently see through Saira.

And even better is the ones that didn't see through Jason can conveniently see through Saira.

And people on here say that there's no bias towards certain Housemates that fit certain demographics.

You have lost me....

What does Jason have to do with this discussion?

[Tarryn]

I do think Saira is very patronizing & talks down to they younger group BUT there was no need for what they did last night. The younger group came across a entitled, spoilt, nasty little brats.
Renee is clearly trying to keep IN with the younger crowd. I can see her defending whatever they do.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I do think Saira is very patronizing & talks down to they younger group BUT there was no need for what they did last night. The younger group came across a entitled, spoilt, nasty little brats.
Renee is clearly trying to keep IN with the younger crowd. I can see her defending whatever they do.

The snearing faces she pulls at whoever she is talking to would be enough to make me snap at her too

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Semtex

You have lost me....

What does Jason have to do with this discussion?

I'm on about that certain people can see through one victim chasing, yet couldn't with the other.

[Robodog]

Marnie was wrong to flash at Saira like that.
Bear was wrong to goad her and suggest it.

The others just happened to be there and weren't an active part of it.

Saira has been insulting and provoking half the house since she entered, trying to get a rise out of anyone she can, so she has 100% invited a response to it.

Marnie and Bear were doing well all day, holding their own against Saira's spiteful judgement and passive-aggressive techniques. But then they lost their good ground by the boob thing. It's given her exactly what she has been searching for since day one: victim status. Watch her now milk this for all she can get out of it.

[Liam-]

They're all vile, I'm surprised that Lewis is getting mostly away with his part he played in last nights actions, considering he's the one who dared Marnie to go and fake apologise in the first place, he's the one who started the ball rolling, Bear and Marnie are human trash though.

[Strictly Jake]

No as much as I dislike heavy d and Lewis I don't see them as bully's so there isn't really a bully group, just a complete twonk bear and his bee-atch marnie who will do anything bear clicks his fingers at for her to do, and believe me she will be making him get them fingers to work real soon! Marnie you have disappointed me!

[bots]

all this rubbish about bullies. Bullies are only effective against someone who can be bullied, and no-one in that environment can be. There are no weak personalities and no-one can be isolated when they have a diary room to go to at any time they wish.

Anyone that gives the impression of being bullied is doing so because they want it to appear that way.