[jaxie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think he might be right. This could make the idea of a hard Brexit difficult and I would much prefer a hard Brexit.

We don't need to keep bits and pieces of the EU and we may be forced to if they start scoring points off each other in parliament over it.

[smudgie]

Ok, if the Govt lose the appeal, maybe time to call a general election and see if they get a bigger majority.
Wonder who will be quaking in their boots the most....perhaps the MPs who dare to go against their constituent voters.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Ok, if the Govt lose the appeal, maybe time to call a general election and see if they get a bigger majority.
Wonder who will be quaking in their boots the most....perhaps the MPs who dare to go against their constituent voters.

It would obliterate Labour.Last thing they want.

[Tom4784]

It would be beautiful to see Brexit fail and Farage's 'legacy' go up in flames after all the lies he told during the campaign.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It would be beautiful to see Brexit fail and Farage's 'legacy' go up in flames after all the lies he told during the campaign.

Remember all the rats deserting the sinking ship?... They're back and in the Telegraph! *and nobody anywhere was surprised*

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Remember all the rats deserting the sinking ship?... They're back and in the Telegraph! *and nobody anywhere was surprised*

Rats?

Nice.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It would be beautiful to see Brexit fail and Farage's 'legacy' go up in flames after all the lies he told during the campaign.

Bring it on.

[Livia]

There were lies on both sides. The outcome was clear though.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

There were lies on both sides. The outcome was clear though.

Wasn't it ruled that referendums were not binding?...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Wasn't it ruled that referendums were not binding?...

Only if the outcome doesn't suit you.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Only if the outcome doesn't suit you.

Hey... I don't make the rules Liv

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hey... I don't make the rules Liv

It would do you well to remember that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i fear that this baby is coming out...

[Northern Monkey]

It's honestly nothing to worry about.No serious politician would want to be seen voting against the will of the people.They won't block it.They would become very unpopular indeed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It's honestly nothing to worry about.No serious politician would want to be seen voting against the will of the people.They won't block it.They would become very unpopular indeed.

what about endlessly delay it?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what about endlessly delay it?

How?If the government give parliament a vote on triggering article 50 then they'll have to vote on it.The majority won't vote against it.Job done.

[Kizzy]

Since when did a government care about the will of the people? If they wanted it stopped, it would be stopped.

[UserSince2005]

#DeathToGinaMiller

[arista]

The Appeal
can get it back to normal Kizzy

[joeysteele]

Not going over the whole sorry mess that was the campaign as to the EU from both sides but since a lot of it was about returning full powers back to the UK parliament,I am mystified at ....

Why this govt fears votes from MPs,why too does anyone particularly those who voted to leave fear any possible and much more highly unlikely new referendum, 'if' that is, they really know and believe the voters are still with them as to leaving the EU.

However, the referendum was voted for by all MPs, there was a Nationwide campaign by all MPs and parties from Westminster.
Whatever shape leaving takes, then why is this a govt issue only, the leaving terms and deal will affect the UK for the future totally, it will affect all future governments too.
Why couldn't this govt, make this a national negotiated deal with active representatives from all parties elected to Westminster.

No one then could say this was a bad deal or wrong deal but to just keep everyone in the dark save government Ministers, is dubious at best and wrong overall.
In my opinion.

Plan with all parties, properly consult, not pay just lip service and then bring forward the agreed date for all MPs to vote as to triggering article 50.
With a final vote on the deal concluded.
Why make this important decision so hard to head into by demanding to do it all by themselves,this govt could under Theresa May have made a massive step to uniting not only Parliament on this but also the UK as a whole, as best it could be.

Also the EU seeing a totally united UK parliament with all included may then just look to possibly being that bit more amiable too.

Failing all that, yes, have a general election, lets see what the voters and the new voters who have turned 18 since the EU vote, want as to the leaving deal.
The Lib Dems would likely campaign on remaining in the EU.
UKIP and the Conservatives would be going for a harder leaving deal.
Labour would be probably going for a softer leaving deal.

Why even fear an election on that issue, let's get not only the decision to leave out the way by the voters as we did in June,also now however get how the voters 'really want' the UK to leave the EU too.

If the overall view of the voters really does remain as it was on June 23rd, then any voting on the issue should not worry anyone at all, no matter how they voted.
Then, UK voters would then too get the leaving deal they asked and voted for at that time too.
What is to fear at all as to that.

Parliament wastes loads of time and has endless votes on trifling things, this issue is the biggest issue in over half a century at least.
So of course much more clarity and solid voting by all MPs in parliament is necessary.
It is a mystery to me why this govt and Prime Minister ever wanted to deny that.

I hope the appeal gets upheld in the Supreme court.
An arrogant dismissive govt, again just my opinion, is not going to be any better than the EU was in the end.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Denver]

this country will enter civil war as there will be riots and all sorts that will not be able to be handled

[Kizzy]

'The Prime Minister was trying to “reverse the result of the English Civil War” when she sought to use the power of the Queen to begin the process of leaving the European Union, according to a leading constitutional lawyer.

Theresa May wants to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty by invoking the Royal Prerogative – the power of the monarch vested in the Prime Minister. While the High Court ruled this would be illegal, the Government now plans to appeal to the Supreme Court.

But Geoffrey Robertson QC said this showed how “ignorant” Ms May and Attorney General Jeremy Wright QC were of the UK’s constitutional requirements, adding that the confusion added to the case for creating a formal written constitution.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7395586.html

[Scarlett.]

Parliament voting on issues is how this country is supposed to work. From what I've seen of May, she'd rather it doesn't exist.

[reece(:]

Cancel Brexit and lock up any rioters