[sampvt]

There is a subtle difference between Raphs game plan and the others. The others are flying by the seat of their pants and inventing issues as they go along. Raph is sitting back and analising the way the winds blowing and he dives in stirring up **** he knows the weak will carry onto bigger things and its very easy to see. His friendship with mary trout pout ind the other half of the anger sisters is so transparent its sick. He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league, so hes playing big fish in the paddling pool then runs to the DR and becomes hyper vocal.

If they decide to play back his DR rants, you will see how creepy the little **** is, he will stain his nappy and dislocate his Bruce forsyth jaw in a heartbeat.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by sampvt

There is a subtle difference between Raphs game plan and the others. The others are flying by the seat of their pants and inventing issues as they go along. Raph is sitting back and analising the way the winds blowing and he dives in stirring up **** he knows the weak will carry onto bigger things and its very easy to see. His friendship with mary trout pout ind the other half of the anger sisters is so transparent its sick. He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league, so hes playing big fish in the paddling pool then runs to the DR and becomes hyper vocal.

If they decide to play back his DR rants, you will see how creepy the little **** is, he will stain his nappy and dislocate his Bruce forsyth jaw in a heartbeat.

Says the person who's never gotten anywhere near the BB House but is a self-declared 'Oracle' on TIBB.

''He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league''...........and who are these ''big boys'' you speak of exactly ?

You sound really bitter that Raph is a fraction of your age yet he could decimate you on an intelligence level, has four different passports, can speak four languages and, despite your personal attacks on his appearance still doesn't look like a shrivelled prune and has actually gotten out from behind his keyboard and made it onto Big Brother.

Your jealousy is palpable.
Oh and people like him on here too. Kind of easy to understand why you're so jealous.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

has he actually spoken to any of the boys in the house, all I see of him is gossiping with girls?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Says the person who's never gotten anywhere near the BB House but is a self-declared 'Oracle' on TIBB.

''He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league''...........and who are these ''big boys'' you speak of exactly ?

You sound really bitter that Raph is a fraction of your age yet he could decimate you on an intelligence level, has four different passports, can speak four languages and, despite your personal attacks on his appearance still doesn't look like a shrivelled prune and has actually gotten out from behind his keyboard and made it onto Big Brother.

Your jealousy is palpable.
Oh and people like him on here too. Kind of easy to understand why you're so jealous.

I'm enjoying watching him. I want to see what he does next. Nice to see him more vocal. He's coming out of his shell and I love it.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Says the person who's never gotten anywhere near the BB House but is a self-declared 'Oracle' on TIBB.

''He hasnt got the balls to play in the big boys league''...........and who are these ''big boys'' you speak of exactly ?

You sound really bitter that Raph is a fraction of your age yet he could decimate you on an intelligence level, has four different passports, can speak four languages and, despite your personal attacks on his appearance still doesn't look like a shrivelled prune and has actually gotten out from behind his keyboard and made it onto Big Brother.

Your jealousy is palpable.
Oh and people like him on here too. Kind of easy to understand why you're so jealous.

I wasnt going to answer this as its a bit pathetic, but just to address your points. Ive got a BA followed by a masters degree and Have taught in Per Brahe Gymnasium Sweden which is a university in Jonkoping. I got the position because I speak Swedish. I also lived in Germany, Spain, Norway and mexico so I speak one more language than raph. My IQ is currently 147 and Im nearly 65, something not many OAP;s will aspire to, yet alone people like you. As for going on BB, no thanks, my desperation to avail myself as an RTV numpty is not that strong and in regards to me being a cyber warrior, or reference to me being the Oracle, ive been right far more often than wrong and when it comes to rhetoric, consider yourself rinsed.

Now go away and play somewhere you wont get hurt.

Oh I forgot, if you dont believe me, just PM Chuff, she is honest and I am proud to admit that she is one of my dearest friends and knows my wife and I personally. Failing that send me your e mail and Ill drop you some evidence.

[JTM45]

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

has he actually spoken to any of the boys in the house, all I see of him is gossiping with girls?

Spot on mate but dont shout too loud, the bubbles you will burst will blow your ear drums. We seem to base our opinions based on evidence and not cyber hero worship. Shame some people cant see past the obvious. If he was to try and break into the ring of the cool gang, he would be eaten up and spit out. All he can do is play pally pally with the girly wets in the house spreading gossip.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

He's doing himself no favours hanging around with Chanelle and sniggering at her threats and abusive comments.

There are spare beds available - grab one before the newbies come in.

I agree

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by JTM45

well done, you probably need a nap after being rinsed but you need to know that being rude by zzzzzz, is actually insulting and slightly pathetic, there again, you probably know that.Youre now on ignore so take my previous advice and stop insulting FM;s

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by sampvt

well done, you probably need a nap after being rinsed but you need to know that being rude by zzzzzz, is actually insulting and slightly pathetic, there again, you probably know that.Youre now on ignore so take my previous advice and stop insulting FM;s

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by JTM45

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ?

Sorry didnt get round to ignoring you quick enough but im glad you brought it up. I didnt start the personal stuff, you did. I voiced an opinion on a house mate, you attacked a forum mate. And yes i bet youre glad you have a bigger sector to play in, I think we all know what that sector does, but we wont mention it eh.

I am now politely asking you to please stop this spat as its going nowhere and your constant retorts are only serving to show your baiting skills. Now I have asked for you to stop replying to me, the comeback, if it comes will be reported. done deal, lets agree to disagree. By the way, Raph isnt that popular or friends with that many from what \i can see, but there again, I dont spend every waking moment on my keyboard. i just come on when the show airs, i dont do the off season.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by JTM45

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ?

Doesn't make him a good hm8,interesting or a nice person ,in fact it makes him the opposite,he's a fake and he's a wuss ..and please stop baiting Sam ,thank you

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Sorry didnt get round to ignoring you quick enough but im glad you brought it up. I didnt start the personal stuff, you did. I voiced an opinion on a house mate, you attacked a forum mate. And yes i bet youre glad you have a bigger sector to play in, I think we all know what that sector does, but we wont mention it eh.

I am now politely asking you to please stop this spat as its going nowhere and your constant retorts are only serving to show your baiting skills. Now I have asked for you to stop replying to me, the comeback, if it comes will be reported. done deal, lets agree to disagree. By the way, Raph isnt that popular or friends with that many from what \i can see, but there again, I dont spend every waking moment on my keyboard. i just come on when the show airs, i dont do the off season.

IGNORE !!!!!!!!!!!!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IGNORE !!!!!!!!!!!!

I will now ive said my bit. Thanks

[bots]

just as a point of note, for however long Raph is a hm, he can be described and talked about in the same way as any other hm, so he cannot be protected by being a forum member. This was stated by the site admin on launch

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Saying we're biased in Raph's favour on this forum is all well and good but i'm not quite sure how the Raph detractors will explain why he's almost as popular outside this Forum with people who have no bias towards him.

If anything people who are seen as being American (which, due to his accent, people will consider Raph first and foremost) generally have a disadvantage in BB UK but despite this Raph is going back and forth with the bookies between 1st and 2nd place overall winner and he's been solidly at the top of most BB Forums' Polls for some time now.

Guess it's just a classic case of ''Haters gonna hate while Raph's gonna win!''

People are not hating on him...just pointing out he isn't the Mr Wonderful many depict him to be. No one is perfect. I like him and I like his observations just wish he woul tell people to their faces his observations. You don't have to be confrontational to do that...he did it to Joe?
Last night he stirred the pot...and I didn't think he was like that...but we will see.
....and I don't really care if he is the favourite on FB Tellymix or BluePeter...I will still have my opinion negative or otherwise..

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

just as a point of note, for however long Raph is a hm, he can be described and talked about in the same way as any other hm, so he cannot be protected by being a forum member. This was stated by the site admin on launch

I think a lot are holding back and ass licking for when he comes back and he reads through the threads ,I dont play them games ,if he's a **** hm8 I will call him a **** hm8

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Mick

If he knows the show and is a great game player i wonder how receiving the killer nom has affected any plans.? He no longer has to fear HMs nominating him.

...it was just for that week.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

People are not hating on him...just pointing out he isn't the Mr Wonderful many depict him to be. No one is perfect. I like him and I like his observations just wish he woul tell people to their faces his observations. You don't have to be confrontational to do that...he did it to Joe?
Last night he stirred the pot...and I didn't think he was like that...but we will see.
....and I don't really care if he is the favourite on FB Tellymix or BluePeter...I will still have my opinion negative or otherwise..

I never had a problem with people liking or disliking whoever they want but when people start commenting in a nasty way about his physical appearance i think that's going over the line.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by JTM45

It was you who started this with your post bitterly and unecessarily attacking Raph (a Forum Member of long and good standing) and getting personal about his appearance. Very mature.

Glad to hear you put me on ignore too because i feel better not existing in your very narrow little sector.

Oh what will i do now next time i need the advice of a self-proclaimed 'ORACLE' ?

It's a forum.. We are free to comment about any housemate good or bad. It's irrelevant whether Raph is a forum member of 'long and good standing'. We are not judging him as 'the forum member' we are judging him as a housemate. Raph put himself into the house as a housemate...and that's how he will be judged. You can get an insight into people on here as to the way they express themselves and people they like or dislike...but it doesn't mean you 'know them'.
Raph we now see as a person behind the name....he is exposing himself for the person he is that's what BB does...warts and all.He is a nice guy but like most of us he has faults and I will express my opinions on them along with the good things.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I never had a problem with people liking or disliking whoever they want but when people start commenting in a nasty way about his physical appearance i think that's going over the line.

No I agree...personal attacks on appearance are wrong. However you have crossed the line by doing just that to a forum member..so that doesn't really make you any better.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It's a forum.. We are free to comment about any housemate good or bad. It's irrelevant whether Raph is a forum member of 'long and good standing'. We are not judging him as 'the forum member' we are judging him as a housemate. Raph put himself into the house as a housemate...and that's how he will be judged. You can get an insight into people on here as to the way they express themselves and people they like or dislike...but it doesn't mean you 'know them'.
Raph we now see as a person behind the name....he is exposing himself for the person he is that's what BB does...warts and all.He is a nice guy but like most of us he has faults and I will express my opinions on them along with the good things.

Rusti

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No I agree...personal attacks on appearance are wrong. However you have crossed the line by doing just that to a forum member..so that doesn't really make you any better.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No I agree...personal attacks on appearance are wrong. However you have crossed the line by doing just that to a forum member..so that doesn't really make you any better.

Thanks for pointing that out. On that note, people seem to be actively discussing Chanelles lips and arse, lotans muscles, Rebeccas hair and Joes eyeliner and leather looks. As soon as anyone brings up golden boys chin, the dummies get thrown out of all the prams and its disgusting. Someone even fat shamed GC and mentioned Blondies wonkie eye.

Is it one rule for one and one for others.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

has he actually spoken to any of the boys in the house, all I see of him is gossiping with girls?

He was close to Arthur.