[Gap]

Well, they had to do something or the show would deffiantely have been cancelled. There's no chance of it happening again so the show can now continue safely.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Big_Brother_Nutter
I think Big Brother should be ashamed of themselves... removing an INNOCENT girl... just because they messed up in CBB5 WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE REMOVED JADE FOR HER RACIST COMMENTS.... BUT THEY DIDN'T... Well I never thought I'd be saying this but it deserves to be cancelled!!!

On one hand you say they should get rid of Jade for racist comments but you think they have been unfair to Emily who used a racist term.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by rororo06

I know ! people who dislike Charley are trying to turn this round on her! people face it Emily called Charley who is a black woman the n word there is no way that can be taken any other way then rascism! Channel 4 proved they have learned their lesson and i applaud them!

Don't try and twist my argument to imply I hate Charley. I'm extremely fond of Charley and felt considerable sympathy when she couldn't control her emotion at hearing the word.

This is not about blaming other housemates - this about blaming Big Brother and Channel 4 for their hypocrisy, and setting up this situation to manipulate forgiveness for the way they handled CBB5.

Emily's comment would have never made the edit, under different circumstances.

[bringbackscience]

charley calling herself a n****r

and

emily calling charley a n****r

are two seperate matters entirely

I dont like the fact Charley has called herself it but she is not calling someone else it. Im sure if Charley had called nikky (or emily i suppose, although it wouldnt make sense) a n****r, Charley would have been ejected.

To try and make out the two things are the same is wrong imo

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
charley calling herself a n****r

and

emily calling charley a n****r

are two seperate matters entirely

I dont like the fact Charley has called herself it but she is not calling someone else it. Im sure if Charley had called nikky (or emily i suppose, although it wouldnt make sense) a n****r, Charley would have been ejected.

To try and make out the two things are the same is wrong imo

Spot on.

[moonwolf]

Personally, I think Charley's more to blame than Emily!?

Emily said something she shouldn't have and should have been punished in one way or another but, not kicked out. That was extreme!

But, Charley, who didn't seem to let it bother her at the time and wanted to keep it quiet when Emily apologised, suddenly started harping on and on and on: "I can't believe you said that", "I'm shocked by what you just said", "Why did you say that?".
Then she started saying "No, it's cool, just forget it", "Nobody else needs to know", "Let's just forget it", "Just drop it, ok" etc etc.

Next thing you see is Charley blabbing it to everyone who'll listen, she even brings it up in the bedroom when the others - who didn't know anything had hapened - are talking as normal, and starts a big fuss there too.

No, Charley had to get the limelight and made damn sure that BB and all the housemates knew exactly what was said. She couldn't let it drop. She saw a chance to get rid of at least one piece of competition and she took it!

If she'd have stuck by her "I'm not bovvered" comments and kept her gob shut, then Emily would have probably just been penalised in some smaller way.

If Charley had called Emily a Honky or Chalky, would she have been booted out - I very much doubt it? Probably just a warning!

Btw, I'm not a fan of Emily. I think she's a spoilt rich-bitch who had no great talent except for arguing about tongs/straighteners etc! But BB took it to the max and made an example of her. That was way too harsh!

[Keith_Can]

Hey all white people know the implications of using the "N" word. This argument seems to be based on BB being a hypocrite about it but like it or not when us whites use it its considered rascist.

With all the pressure on BB this season they did the right thing IMO and squished the problem very quickly. Emily considers herself Blond & Smart ,.she shoulda been smarter.

BTW chosen,. could you change your avatar,. go for the newer badass anakin from ep 3 man,. that pic reminds me of the pouty bad acting kid from attack of the clones joking but serious

[geoking66]

Here's the thing, if she hadn't said it in reference (or to) Charley, then it probably wouldn't have been as serious. However, I think that they should have given her the Michelle-trying-to-burn-the-Diary-Room-camera-punishment and given her a final warning instantly and if she misbehaved again then should would be ejected.

[LDN07]

It IS her fault, you can't blame BB for this. It's a silly argument when people say "Oh but black artists use it and whatever!" well guess what...that doesn't mean it's right, I don't agree with them using it either but just because they say doesn't mean we should either, just don't say it!!!

I don't think Emily is a racist or a hateful person but that was an incredibly ignorant thing to say and it is her fault because she along with all of us knew how touchy BB and C4 would be about racial subjects after CBB, I mean she doesn't live in a box she knew what it was about, so the fact that she actually said that was incredibly stupid knowing that she'd suffer a severe consequence.

BB would be in even more trouble if they kept her in or tried to hide it.

[Captain.Remy]

By the way, the housemates have been warned before entering inthe Big Brother house about the fact that offensive words are not tolerated.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by rororo06

No there is a differnace! Emily called Charley the n word while Charley called herself the n word thats the point! i cant belaive how you can stick up for that dumb silly girl

The difference when you and others contradict yourselves.

You say the word is offensive

I say the intent and the context in which the word is said is what causes the offence.

You say she had to be removed because she said the word

I say, had it not been for CBB5 she would not have been removed, she would have gotten the most serious warning and the HM's would have talked it through, and in light of the nominations the GBP would have made the ultimate decision, but because of CBB5 and the undeniable racism which took place in that show, she HAD to be removed.

Your contradiction comes when you say the word itself is offensive and by saying it she had to be removed, and you ignore intent and context

Therefore the only way your position can stand scrutiny is if they remove everyone who said the word.

As it is Łndemol are holdening themselves to a psoition, and you are agreeing with it, that you are judged differently depending on your ethnicity.


No word in and of itself is racist, though a word can have history and racist connotations. Regardless, it is the context in which the word is used that makes it racist.

This situation is the offspring of CBB5 and the actions of genuine racist lowlives.

[InTheFade]

She would never have won and do you actually think Big Brother had a choice? The show probably would have been cancelled altogether if they hadn't!

[sunlight]

bb had no choice. all the people saying it was nothing like the cbb thing are right cause it wasn't that want on for weeks, this was nipped in the bud straight away. my god bb can never win. remember how small it started with dan,jade and co. they couldn't risk it.