[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

But in his case he is so against Racism, now
and its a Mega Topic in the Election Battle
on right now in Canada.

He's grown as a PERSON

Unlike some


Well done Justin

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He's grown as a PERSON

Unlike some


Well done Justin

He's KKK. It's all Eyes Wide Shut. Listen to Kubrick, he knew the score.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

He's KKK. It's all Eyes Wide Shut. Listen to Kubrick, he knew the score.

Is it you or the strong spirit Arista mentioned talking?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

But in his case he is so against Racism, now
and its a Mega Topic in the Election Battle
on right now in Canada.

You see Arista, there's this thing called personal growth and it allows us to change over time as we grow physically, emotionally and mentally as we deal with different obstacles and situations in life.

Unless there's evidence proving that he's still the idiot he was when he took these photos then this is nothing more than an attack and a hypocritical amount of faux outrage on the part of the right

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You see Arista, there's this thing called personal growth and it allows us to change over time as we grow physically, emotionally and mentally as we deal with different obstacles and situations in life.

Unless there's evidence proving that he's still the idiot he was when he took these photos then this is nothing more than an attack and a hypocritical amount of faux outrage on the part of the right

Translated. "It's all the Rights (whoever they are) fault that Trudeau decided to Black up."

I thought it might be.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Translated. "It's all the Rights (whoever they are) fault that Trudeau decided to Black up."

I thought it might be.

Brush up on your reading comprehension, Alf.

[arista]

[bots]

Trudeau is now saying he can't remember how many times he did blackface, that implies he did it a lot. In a political family that's quite an admission

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Trudeau is now saying he can't remember how many times he did blackface, that implies he did it a lot. In a political family that's quite an admission

Yeesh. Well I hope he's learned from those days. It's not looking good for him though.

A person can only apologise for the past and hope they grow from it, if there's any evidence of relatively recent racial actions then I hope they drag him out of office, if not, I hope he gets the chance to show that he's changed.

[arista]

[Oliver_W]

Why are the pictures in black and white? They had colour photos even back in the early 2000s...

[Vicky.]

The only time I would hold something like this against someone really, is if in the 20 year timegap they have not changed.

Mind I have to say, I find Trudeau to be..just as smarmy and full of bull as most other politicans tbh, I don't really get his almost cultlike following. But it doesn't matter to me really, given am not Canadian

[Alf]

He didn't look anything like Aladdin either.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

He didn't look anything like Aladdin either.

I said that. Aladdin wasnt black was he

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I said that. Aladdin wasnt black was he

That makes it even worse then?

[bots]

usually, if people have a drastic change in opinion it is associated with a life changing moment. Something that the individual can point to as changing their life forever. i haven't heard this from Trudeau so i remain very skeptical about him. I think he is a family generated political figure and i trust those types the least.

[Kizzy]

I'm only surprised these pics haven't surfaced before now.. if it were a genuine reason for the expose and it was someone who had found them and become genuinely upset/ offended/ annoyed... but it isn't, it's political point scoring and electioneering.

One instance then ok, error of judgement but 2,3?
He did hI'm self no favours leaving the issue dormant, should've raisled and confronted it himself head on.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That makes it even worse then?

Hard to tell. Maybe he didn't know or maybe he did but fancied blacking up. We will never know.
I'd like to see that in context, how popular blacking up was at the time for that demographic and in similar circumstances.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Hard to tell. Maybe he didn't know or maybe he did but fancied blacking up. We will never know.
I'd like to see that in context, how popular blacking up was at the time for that demographic and in similar circumstances.

Really? 29, from a political household, I think it's really stretching it

My eldest started school in 2002 and we were summoned because he referred to one of his friends as having brown skin and a teacher overheard, so yeah I'm struggling with this one.

Side note, they are still friends 18 years later

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I said that. Aladdin wasnt black was he

I thought he'd gone to the fancy dress party as Papa Lazaru.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

I thought he'd gone to the fancy dress party as Papa Lazaru.

My least favourite character from the show

[Alf]

Do you reckon the reaction to this would be the same or different if it had been Trump? Exact same scenario but Trump instead of Trudeau.

I ask that because David Lammey is usually one of the most vocal on Twitter with this kind of story, but he hasn't tweeted once about it yet. This is the man who thinks raising money on Comic Relief is racist. It's a mystery why he hasn't commented yet.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Do you reckon the reaction to this would be the same or different if it had been Trump? Exact same scenario but Trump instead of Trudeau.

I ask that because David Lammey is usually one of the most vocal on Twitter with this kind of story, but he hasn't tweeted once about it yet. This is the man who thinks raising money on Comic Relief is racist. It's a mystery why he hasn't commented yet.

Of course the reaction would be different

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Of course the reaction would be different

Yup, Trump is constantly racist, hell, he was condemned by Congress for his racist attacks on members of congress just a few months ago. He's a proven racist already so it's quite different to someone who may have been racist in the past but has seemingly turned it around and has learned from their mistakes.

If Trudeau's administration was known for it's blatant racism like Trump's is then I would be more critical. I believe people can let go of their hate, I've known people that would have beat the **** out of someone if they knew they were gay a decade or two ago go to Pride and be an out and out ally for the LGBT in the present. Same with racism, the area I live in is very racist but I've seen racists change their minds on their position and grow as well.

With time and experience, people can change their ways and given the fact that Trudeau has pretty much had diversity and acceptance at the forefront on his administration, I'd be willing to bet he learned the lessons he needed to learn unless something more recent comes out.

Trump has never learned, He started off his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists and he hasn't stopped stirring up racial tension ever since.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Alf

In one small post, you've took the heat of Trudeau and passed it on to Trump. Or do you mean Boris?

That's a good trick, just not good enough to get past me.

Originally Posted by Alf

Do you reckon the reaction to this would be the same or different if it had been Trump? Exact same scenario but Trump instead of Trudeau.

So about that...

For the record, the only person I've seen defending or minimising the issue of blackface as you seem to be implying is a member in this thread who thinks blackface is akin to "wearing dark foundation". I haven't seen anyone else, David Lammy or otherwise, react to Trudeau doing blackface as if it's a non-issue, because Trudeau's an idiot and is being rightfully slammed for this. The comparison I made was because, at the time of posting, the Trudeau story was the top story on BBC News, while Trump covering up his attempt to bribe the Ukrainian president into investigating Joe Biden's son was like... ten stories down. It was nice to briefly see a glimpse of a country with a normal political news cycle where "Prime Minister did blackface so many times he's literally lost count", as opposed to the one we live in every other day, in which "Trump is a corrupt liar" is the kind of headline we've become so used to that it was below a story about the new J-Lo film.