[Twosugars]

The world’s high mountain glaciers, upon which almost 2 billion people rely for water, are also melting fast, the IPCC found, while landslides are expected to increase. A third of the great Himalayan range is already doomed, with two-thirds projected to vanish if emissions are not cut.

One of the most worrying alarms sounded by the IPCC report is about melting tundra and increasing wildfires in northern latitudes: “Widespread permafrost thaw is projected for this century and beyond.” A quarter is already near certain to melt, it said, and 70% or more would go if emissions are not curbed. In the latter case, hundreds of billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide and methane could be released, supercharging the climate emergency.
From the same report as above

Btw the tundra permafrost melt is so dangerous bc it has vast reserves of co2 stored in the ground. If that goes the runaway greenhouse effect will go nuts

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The world’s high mountain glaciers, upon which almost 2 billion people rely for water, are also melting fast, the IPCC found, while landslides are expected to increase. A third of the great Himalayan range is already doomed, with two-thirds projected to vanish if emissions are not cut.

One of the most worrying alarms sounded by the IPCC report is about melting tundra and increasing wildfires in northern latitudes: “Widespread permafrost thaw is projected for this century and beyond.” A quarter is already near certain to melt, it said, and 70% or more would go if emissions are not curbed. In the latter case, hundreds of billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide and methane could be released, supercharging the climate emergency.
From the same report as above

Btw the tundra permafrost melt is so dangerous bc it has vast reserves of co2 stored in the ground. If that goes the runaway greenhouse effect will go nuts

Maybe there is things that need sorting out, but the Planet is gonna be fine, it always has been, it'll survive us humans and long after. If they've identified problems, then stop talking and go sort them out. It's the more practical way.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Maybe there is things that need sorting out, but the Planet is gonna be fine, it always has been, it'll survive us humans and long after. If they've identified problems, then stop talking and go sort them out. It's the more practical way.

The planet will survive but we won’t.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The planet will survive but we won’t.

Well that's a given, every human born in the future is gonna die at some point.

But I'd much rather dwell on the positives of life and make the best of it I can, and try to live a honest, happy life, even though every thing out there is trying to stop you doing that.

This is getting quite morbid, which is apt, because I've been to a funeral this morning.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well that's a given, every human born in the future is gonna die at some point.

But I'd much rather dwell on the positives of life and make the best of it I can, and try to live a honest, happy life, even though every thing out there is trying to stop you doing that.

This is getting quite morbid, which is apt, because I've been to a funeral this morning.

So **** the future generations then? As long as you’re ok

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Maybe there is things that need sorting out, but the Planet is gonna be fine, it always has been, it'll survive us humans and long after. If they've identified problems, then stop talking and go sort them out. It's the more practical way.

Nobody is talking about the planet dying.

But our life on it will become extremely hard

Nobody is doing enough , that's why the kid and others campaign

It is as if you haven't listened throughout this thread

[Nicky91]

yep, so that's why we need to stop climate change for the sake of our health

but we cannot do it alone, the whole world needs to work together on this

https://nltimes.nl/2019/09/25/dutch-...tion-un-speech

our dutch king willem alexander also spoke about climate change at the UN, among several items discussed there

Youtube video

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yep, so that's why we need to stop climate change for the sake of our health

but we cannot do it alone, the whole world needs to work together on this

https://nltimes.nl/2019/09/25/dutch-...tion-un-speech

our dutch king willem alexander also spoke about climate change at the UN, among several items discussed there

Youtube video

Your country faces particular danger with rising seas as so much of it is below the sea level and right by the coast.
Luckily you are a rich country and can build protections

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Your country faces particular danger with rising seas as so much of it is below the sea level and right by the coast.
Luckily you are a rich country and can build protections

we already have good protections, like neeltje jans at province zeeland, which was built after some floodings in 70's if i'm correct idk precise since it was before my time

but we can renovate and build even more protections if necessary yes

[Tom4784]

I think she's an inspiration and the fact that the Right Wingers are falling apart at the mere mention of her shows that she's doing something right.

We are approaching a point of no return and I reject any claims that she's fear mongering. We should all be scared of what the future holds if we stay on our current cause, If you have children, you should fear for what their future looks like, if you're young you should be aware of what your own future will entail.

Burying your head in the sand will not change what is going to happen, attacking Greta won't change what's been set in motion, clinging to fairy tales won't change the fact that younger generations and future generations will be dealing with the cataclysmic outcome that greed has created.

[Twosugars]

I understand britain is planning to abandon some of its east coast and let it flood

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I understand britain is planning to abandon some of its east coast and let it flood

yes britain is surrounded by water, same goes for ireland

you'll also need good protections from possible flooding dangers

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yes britain is surrounded by water, same goes for ireland

you'll also need good protections from possible flooding dangers

It's the east coast mainly and london of course.

They plan to save some coast but let go of some

The west coast is higher in most places

[Twosugars]

A new barrier will be needed for london though

[Twosugars]

Northern europe and the top of britain are still rising as the ground continues rebounding after the weight of the last glaciation ice got lifted.
For example on long stretches of swedish coast the sea is actually retreating so fast it can be observed on yearly basis.
But that's just localized, globally the sea is winning.

[Alf]

Or Superman

[Tom4784]

I'm tired of holding the hand of manbabies that will willingly sell their own children's future for a bit of profit today. There's no time left for pleasantries and the right wingers that are upset about being called out should be less like the snowflakes they'll claim others to be.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm tired of holding the hand of manbabies that will willingly sell their own children's future for a bit of profit today. There's no time left for pleasantries and the right wingers that are upset about being called out should be less like the snowflakes they'll claim others to be.

They cant help it. Cant break the habit of a lifetime and suddenly care about others

But they need to be called out

[Ramsay]

Pretty sad how triggered people on my news feed are getting over a 16 year old girl

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Pretty sad how triggered people on my news feed are getting over a 16 year old girl

Is triggering people her purpose? If not, then she's failing at whatever she's doing. .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is triggering people her purpose? If not, then she's failing at whatever she's doing. .

It's not what's being said...it's who's saying it though.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

What makes you think that being sceptical of this is a right wing position. I'm sceptical and I don't see myself of the right, I don't see myself as any side, but I'd say I'm more to the left than the right, the only problem is, the left has gone mental, and I'm not playing along.

Because demonstrably that's true. I can only speak for the west, but all of the climate change denial across the pond is on the right (where, incidentally, you source a lot of your opinions from). Over here, only the recent mumblings of denial have started coming from the right.

You may consider yourself on the left, but you also said Nazi's were socialists so you'll have to forgive me if I'm overly skeptical of your political classifications.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Because demonstrably that's true. I can only speak for the west, but all of the climate change denial across the pond is on the right (where, incidentally, you source a lot of your opinions from). Over here, only the recent mumblings of denial have started coming from the right.

You may consider yourself on the left, but you also said Nazi's were socialists so you'll have to forgive me if I'm overly skeptical of your political classifications.

I said I don't see myself on any side. But I come from a family whose voted Labour all their lives so far, I've lived my entire life so far in a Labour constituancy. So I'd say I come from more of a left back ground than a right one. Doesn't mean I have to be a socialist though.

Why would I think they're anything other than socialists, It says socialist in the description "National Socialist"

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I said I don't see myself on any side. But I come from a family whose voted Labour all their lives so far, I've lived my entire life so far in a Labour constituancy. So I'd say I come from more of a left back ground than a right one. Doesn't mean I have to be a socialist though.

Why would I think they're anything other than socialists, It says socialist in the description "National Socialist"

It also says "democratic peoples republic" in the description of north Korea. Unfortunately, the names of things don't tell you everything you need to know.

First they came for the socialists...

[montblanc]

queen!