Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 19-12-2020, 05:44 PM #1
thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,356


thesheriff443 thesheriff443 is offline
thesheriff443
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 16,356


Default

The virus is an invisible killer
People where demanding their freedom back
Plus it was killing people businesses.

Damed if he does damed if he doesn’t.
thesheriff443 is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 06:36 PM #2
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,750

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,750

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

This should have been announced earlier, however the procrastination has been the trademark of this PM and his government all through.

Relaxing 5 days at Christmas was always going to be a dangerous error.

The measures are right but as ever from this inept PM, likely again too late.

The simple fact is he and the Ministers HE'S chosen are NOT up to the task and have by dangerous action at times, plus their inaction too shown that all through.

Now, perhaps no one else would have done any better.
I doubt that myself, we needed clarity, truth and necessary at each needed time action.
All we got and get is muddle, deceit and even lies and finally dangerous procrastination.

Scandalous and a shambles.

Last edited by joeysteele; 19-12-2020 at 06:38 PM.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 07:31 PM #3
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
This should have been announced earlier, however the procrastination has been the trademark of this PM and his government all through.

Relaxing 5 days at Christmas was always going to be a dangerous error.

The measures are right but as ever from this inept PM, likely again too late.

The simple fact is he and the Ministers HE'S chosen are NOT up to the task and have by dangerous action at times, plus their inaction too shown that all through.

Now, perhaps no one else would have done any better.
I doubt that myself, we needed clarity, truth and necessary at each needed time action.
All we got and get is muddle, deceit and even lies and finally dangerous procrastination.

Scandalous and a shambles.

Blame Vallance and Whitty as well
arista is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 07:40 PM #4
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 54,153

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 54,153

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

They only got the data on the new variant on Friday so it was a very rapid reaction to that. I always said that the 5 day mixing over Christmas was a bad idea, but it was agreed by all the 4 nations at the time, so they take collective responsibility for the stupidity
bots is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 07:43 PM #5
Cherry Christmas's Avatar
Cherry Christmas Cherry Christmas is offline
Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 68,731

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherry Christmas Cherry Christmas is offline
Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
Cherry Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 68,731

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Well some people were crying out for direction on Christmas from the government...they got it in spades
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherry Christmas is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 08:15 PM #6
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,750

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,750

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Blame Vallance and Whitty as well
Well the health experts always expressed concern at the 5 day relaxation at Christmas.
Johnson has NOT always followed the health and science.

Only when it suited him until forced by the dangerous delays to then eventually act.

He's even disregarded health and science advice at times too.

Last edited by joeysteele; 19-12-2020 at 08:16 PM.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 08:17 PM #7
Santa's NaughtiNess's Avatar
Santa's NaughtiNess Santa's NaughtiNess is offline
Vanessa | The Italian Job
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 110,600

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Santa's NaughtiNess Santa's NaughtiNess is offline
Vanessa | The Italian Job
Santa's NaughtiNess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 110,600

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Default

oh well, hopefully things will get better with the vaccine.
__________________
Santa's NaughtiNess is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 08:35 PM #8
Christmas Lights's Avatar
Christmas Lights Christmas Lights is online now
GoldHeart
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 28,802

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Khaled
BB2023: Trish


Christmas Lights Christmas Lights is online now
GoldHeart
Christmas Lights's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 28,802

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Khaled
BB2023: Trish


Default

Tier 4 now , I bet they'll announce tier 5 next .
__________________
Christmas Lights is online now  
Old 19-12-2020, 06:42 PM #9
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

Boris has finally stopped bowing to business and started listening g to the health experts...it's about time!!
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 07:51 PM #10
Jake.'s Avatar
Jake. Jake. is offline
-
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Jake. Jake. is offline
-
Jake.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Default

Announcing this five days before Christmas is an absolute farce. Shambolic doesn’t even cut it anymore.
Jake. is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 07:53 PM #11
UserSince2005 UserSince2005 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 10,137

Favourites (more):
CBB17: Tiffany Pollard
CBB14: Frenchy
UserSince2005 UserSince2005 is offline
User banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 10,137

Favourites (more):
CBB17: Tiffany Pollard
CBB14: Frenchy
Default

I’m actually ****ed off. They made the rail companies mark all trains this evening as sold out. Literally cutting me off. How dare they
UserSince2005 is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 07:56 PM #12
Parmy's Avatar
Parmy Parmy is offline
Beso | Piss orf.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 48,963

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Parmy Parmy is offline
Beso | Piss orf.
Parmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 48,963

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Default

Its ****e.
Parmy is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 08:11 PM #13
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,955

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,955

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Just think how better everything would be if they'd have done a circuit breaker when Sir Keir suggested it...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
I own a petrol car and my boobs are big enough.

Oliver_W is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 10:51 PM #14
Cherry Christmas's Avatar
Cherry Christmas Cherry Christmas is offline
Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 68,731

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherry Christmas Cherry Christmas is offline
Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
Cherry Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 68,731

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver_W View Post
Just think how better everything would be if they'd have done a circuit breaker when Sir Keir suggested it...
Like Wales? What a success that has been
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherry Christmas is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 12:16 AM #15
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver_W View Post
Just think how better everything would be if they'd have done a circuit breaker when Sir Keir suggested it...


No that was Stupid
2 weeks is not long enough


Keir got it so wrong.
arista is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 12:18 AM #16
Scarlett.'s Avatar
Scarlett. Scarlett. is offline
Senior Moment
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40,695

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Richard
BB2024: Lily


Scarlett. Scarlett. is offline
Senior Moment
Scarlett.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40,695

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Richard
BB2024: Lily


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
No that was Stupid
2 weeks is not long enough


Keir got it so wrong.
Cause Johnson has got it so right, so far
Scarlett. is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 12:26 AM #17
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett. View Post
Cause Johnson has got it so right, so far

No they are racing the Virus
but the Virus also has a Turbo engine.
arista is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 12:24 AM #18
Jake.'s Avatar
Jake. Jake. is offline
-
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Jake. Jake. is offline
-
Jake.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 35,563


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
No that was Stupid
2 weeks is not long enough


Keir got it so wrong.
If you say so!
Jake. is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 09:34 AM #19
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,750

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,750

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
No that was Stupid
2 weeks is not long enough


Keir got it so wrong.
At the time it was called for, not just by Starmer but the science too.
With schools off at the time too.

It was far from stupid.

Whether the effect would have been much better is open to debate.
However that's the time it should have been done.
In line with the science calling for it to be and that call being supported by Starmer.

They then HAD to do a longer one later after Johnson's usual procrastination and indecision.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 10:40 AM #20
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 189,296
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
At the time it was called for, not just by Starmer but the science too.
With schools off at the time too.

It was far from stupid.

Whether the effect would have been much better is open to debate.
However that's the time it should have been done.
In line with the science calling for it to be and that call being supported by Starmer.

They then HAD to do a longer one later after Johnson's usual procrastination and indecision.

Sure at that time,
but now 2 weeks is seen as not long enough.
arista is offline  
Old 20-12-2020, 11:09 AM #21
Merry Mockmas's Avatar
Merry Mockmas Merry Mockmas is online now
Mystic Mock
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 67,270

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Caroline
The Traitors: Alan Carr


Merry Mockmas Merry Mockmas is online now
Mystic Mock
Merry Mockmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: with joeysteele.
Posts: 67,270

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Caroline
The Traitors: Alan Carr


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
At the time it was called for, not just by Starmer but the science too.
With schools off at the time too.

It was far from stupid.

Whether the effect would have been much better is open to debate.
However that's the time it should have been done.
In line with the science calling for it to be and that call being supported by Starmer.

They then HAD to do a longer one later after Johnson's usual procrastination and indecision.
Tbh Joey I honestly don't get why Boris and many of the other leaders around the world keep ignoring Scientists on a field that they will know far more about than most Political leaders or average joe off the street will ever know.

It's ludicrous.
__________________


"I'm coming on his ass.“ - Jake Paul

Last edited by Merry Mockmas; 20-12-2020 at 11:28 AM. Reason: Bad spelling of the word know lol.
Merry Mockmas is online now  
Old 20-12-2020, 11:13 AM #22
Kazanne's Avatar
Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Kazanne Kazanne is offline
Senior Member
Kazanne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gerard Butlers Undercrackersx
Posts: 62,138

Favourites (more):
Love Island 4: Eyal
DOI 2018: Alex Beresford


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic Mock View Post
Tbh Joey I honestly don't get why Boris and many of the other leaders around the world keep ignoring Scientists on a field that they will no far more about than most Political leaders or average joe off the street will ever know.

It's ludicrous.
How do you know they are ignoring them Mocky ? I doubt very much they are as this uturn was brought on by scientific advice.
__________________


RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx

https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo

"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian"
Kazanne is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 08:37 PM #23
smudgie's Avatar
smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


smudgie smudgie is offline
Senior Member
smudgie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: God's own Country
Posts: 25,433

Favourites:
BB18: Raph
X Factor 2013: Abi Alton


Default

So most of us still get a Christmas of sorts.
Albeit shorter and less people allowed.
Roll on Easter, hopefully we can all go crackers.
smudgie is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 10:59 PM #24
Cherry Christmas's Avatar
Cherry Christmas Cherry Christmas is offline
Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 68,731

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherry Christmas Cherry Christmas is offline
Cherie | This Witch doesn't burn
Cherry Christmas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 68,731

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smudgie View Post
So most of us still get a Christmas of sorts.
Albeit shorter and less people allowed.
Roll on Easter, hopefully we can all go crackers.
Yes, you would think the end of the world was nigh the way some are carrying on
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherry Christmas is offline  
Old 19-12-2020, 10:00 PM #25
Kizzy's Avatar
Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Kizzy Kizzy is offline
Likes cars that go boom
Kizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 41,755


Default

You know what.. I'm beginning to thing this was all very much planned. I don't think it's been the **** show it first appears.

Yes people have died but in a very controlled way to avoid overloading NHS capacity. I'd say In MY OPINION that this was achieved by covertly adopting the herd immunity strategy.

By this I mean that there has been a staggering of exposure by differing groups to maximise spread in different age groups and now geographical areas.

First everything was locked down then slowly exposure was turned on an off in order, shops closed then restaurants opened, then gyms opened, then schools opened, people could meet indoors then shops closed again, restaurants closed again but gyms, shops and schools stayed open ... now it's no meeting again.

It's like they are deliberately edging towards a tipping point then pulling back the reins.
__________________
Kizzy is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
cancelled, christmas, full, lockdown, london

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts