[bots]

the wife already had the money, she was sharing her life with a 95 year old

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bots

the wife already had the money, she was sharing her life with a 95 year old

seems odd

I guess the fame of someone is more important than anything for some people

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

seems odd

I guess the fame of someone is more important than anything for some people

They had been together for 30 plus years he would have been 65 and she 32 when they got together, its not unheard of and she had plenty time to abandon ship if she was in it for the money, personally I dont think that was the case

[Crimson Dynamo]

like Liam Paynes "girlfriend" for example

[arista]

[Alf]

So Gene Hackman is over 30 years older than his wife. They got together when she was in her twenties and Gene was in his fifties.

Gene owned a private island.

His death just happened to coincide at the same time that there are rumblings of the Epstein list on its way.

Not saying or accusing anything or anyone, just stating things that are facts.

[LaLaLand]

The search warrant revealed that Hackman and Arakawa had been dead for some time before their bodies were discovered as “the body was in a state of decomposition with bloating in her face and mummification in her hands and feet”.

A prescription bottle was also found on a countertop in the house, with pills scattered around.

According to the search warrant, Arakawa was found on the floor of a bathroom near the countertop beside a space heater that the deputies believed could have toppled and knocked her over. Hackman’s body was in the mud room of the house, fully clothed in gray sweatpants and a long-sleeve T-shirt and with a cane.

Deputies believed he might have had a sudden fall.

The warrant indicated that in the initial search no problems with leaking gas were found. The search warrant concluded that the deaths were “suspicious enough in nature to require a thorough search and investigation”.

Three German shepherds were at the home at the time that deputies entered the property, one of which was found deceased inside a closet in the bathroom about 10-15ft from Arakawa’s body.

Deputies reported that there were no signs of trauma to the bodies. No suicide note was discovered.

All very strange!

https://www.theguardian.com/film/202...-investigation

[Ammi]

…it really is a list of Hollywood/movie royalty in Gene Hackman’s peers who have spoken words of tribute to him…his talent appreciated so much by both movie lovers and movie givers……

[AnnieK]

They are now reporting that the wife could have been dead for some time as her body was showing signs of mummification. This is all very strange now

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

They are now reporting that the wife could have been dead for some time as her body was showing signs of mummification. This is all very strange now

…I believe that they both showed signs of mummification…and the property was ‘unsecured and open’ but no indication of a break in…it feels like some very sad chain of events, possibly…we may know more soon…

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean i have heard of bodies decomposing when left for was while but not mummification, that seems a very odd choice of words?

[Ammi]

..my own theory would be that Betsy Arawaka had some kind of accident in the bathroom while she was getting medication…maybe for herself or maybe she had found her husband after he’d fallen in the mud room…(…or maybe he had found her and was trying to get outside to get hep…and maybe if some pills or a pill was knocked onto the floor, the dog ate it, which caused that death…

[bots]

All this means is that their deaths happened a few weeks ago rather than very recently. It really doesn't point to a cause or series of events.

[Ammi]

…most of the articles seem to mention Betsy’s body condition and then just go on to say that Gene’s was similar so it might be that she died first of an accident in the bathroom or some such tragic event and he was unable to get help or care for himself …so his death was some time later…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Surely they had carers calling each day or servants or some such thing?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Some people on Facebook have this theory.
He had a heart attack.
She runs to get his medication and slips and hits her head.
But this would be extremely bad luck

Originally Posted by Ammi

..my own theory would be that Betsy Arawaka had some kind of accident in the bathroom while she was getting medication…maybe for herself or maybe she had found her husband after he’d fallen in the mud room…(…or maybe he had found her and was trying to get outside to get hep…and maybe if some pills or a pill was knocked onto the floor, the dog ate it, which caused that death…

…that’s similar to my possible theory, Vanessa…only I think that she died first as all of the reports seem to be primarily focused on her body deterioration…

[Kazanne]

Two dogs alive ,one dead,now police think foul play MIGHT be a factor

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Two dogs alive ,one dead,now police think foul play MIGHT be a factor

If it's not a gas leak or carbon monoxide then it could be something else. It definitely needs to be investigated.

[Vanessa]

Where were his children? Why didn't they keep in touch with their dad? To at least make sure they were ok.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Where were his children? Why didn't they keep in touch with their dad? To at least make sure they were ok.

I read he had a strained relationship with them when they were growing up as he was hardly ever around and then moved to the other side of the country so they all lost touch. He said himself his success came at the cost of his children as he wasn't available to them when they needed him.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I read he had a strained relationship with them when they were growing up as he was hardly ever around and then moved to the other side of the country so they all lost touch. He said himself his success came at the cost of his children as he wasn't available to them when they needed him.

…I read that the guys who were working at their house and who I think ultimately called for a welfare check …?…had said that they had barely seen them in their time their and many articles describe the couple as ‘reclusive’…so I think it’s quite layered and complex as these things sometimes are…

[arista]

Yes, we are awaiting a New Update.

[arista]

[arista]

Way back in 1979


[Gene and daughter Elizabeth in March 1979 in
Beverly Hills, California]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ody-found.html

[Ray.]

I like how some of us in this thread are engaging our inner Agatha Christie and trying to propose a solution to the bizarre set of circumstances here. As I understand it, he was something of an aspiring novelist himself in his twilight years, with a particular interest in the American Civil War.