[joeysteele]

Hmm. Having just watched this now as to Starmer's speech.
Probably the best performance from Starmer.

Some things I liked a lot, other things not so.

None of the speakers were wrong about Farage and Reform however.
Although I'd prefer ALL other Parties, not just Labour, to just denounce certainly the more sort of hate preaching rhetoric of Farage's Reform mob against those of other Countries or cultures.
Then set out to more just ignore Reform, not give any of them the time of day as to really responding.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Andrew Neil
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Keir Starmer claims Nigel Farage is to blame for the boat people because Brexit took us out of the Dublin Convention (in 2020), which allowed us to return asylum seekers to the EU countries from whence they came.
The PM is either ignorant of the facts — or knowingly lying. Neither is a good look.
The Dublin Convention was a two-way street for asylum seekers. Yes, we could try to return them. But others could also be returned to us.
As a result the Dublin Agreement actually made us a net recipient of asylum seekers.
Take 2018. We made 5,500 requests for asylum seekers to be returned. Only 209 transfers were agreed. In the same year, under the same convention we accepted 1,215 asylum seekers. So we were net recipients by over 1,000. The Dublin Convention did nothing to make it easier to return asylum seekers.
Nearly all politicians are cavalier with the truth when it suits them. But Starmer is taking this to a new level.

[Livia]

labour is doing very well in the hate speech stakes. Let's hope no one's murdered off the back of it.

I hope Farage sues David Lammy.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

labour is doing very well in the hate speech stakes. Let's hope no one's murdered off the back of it.

I hope Farage sues David Lammy.

Lammy has said he got it wrong

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Lammy has said he got it wrong

He said it. He can apologise but you can't un-ring a bell. The man is a buffoon.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

He said it. He can apologise but you can't un-ring a bell. The man is a buffoon.

Yes True

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[Cherie]

2029 before we will see a reduction of a measly 300.00 a year off energy bills, yet Milliband was on with Nick Ferrari earlier in the week boasting about all the renewable energy and how it will reduce energy prices

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[Beso]

I wont surrender our flag he says...


Maybe that's why he's got the police ripping them from 16 yr old girls.

https://youtube.com/shorts/2E8Hhdqvs...hbblGlPsniiGh6

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