[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

Start a new thread about it. I'd be interested in hearing your reasons for sticking with Labour.

there is already a thread relating to it where I have given my views

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by bananarama

Why are some so wound up at such a suggestion.......Terrified of the truth me thinks.....Cannot will not face reality.....

(a) From what I have read above, I think both forum members were awaiting a reasoned reply of your own. Something along the lines of an explanation to why you thought Obama would have won if he was a republican. I can't see that for one second.

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

there is already a thread relating to it where I have given my views

Thankyou for informing me. I shall look at it in a while after I have finished here.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Remember, up until the 1960s, black people were not even allowed to ride on buses with white people. That's really very very recent. He has proven that your colour does not have to hold you back. [/quote]

(c) The 1960's are not really very very recent. But I understand what you are trying to say. [/quote]


This is relatively recently. Generations of black americans will have grown up being treated differently and looked upon as worthless scum. Not too distant relatives will have experienced extreme racist agression towards them sooo yes they are going to be proud to see a black American in the Whitehouse and most ordinary good people of any colour can see that that is progression and we are moving on from a terrible past.

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by Rory

..but everyone else did.

I'm not saying John McCain's plan was superior, because he would've been the last candidate I would have chosen for the republican party.

What I am saying, is that he has become a celebrity BASED ON his skin color.

My local radio stations did polls, asking people on their way out who they voted for and why. Some said Obama, simply because he's the first black president.

Blacks voting for blacks only because they're black couldn't be deemed racist by the public because of the society we live in today. Racism is not always portrayed as equal among others: blacks can be racist and get away with it, while whites have to tiptoe around any subject involving race.

Does that make a difference? The issue at hand is: did black people only vote for Obama because he is black.

He didn't win just because he was black, but he recieved some votes based on skin color because it's a radical change.

To be honest, I didn't want either to win.

" Racism is not always portrayed as equal among others: blacks can be racist and get away with it, while whites have to tiptoe around any subject involving race."

(a) That statement I have taken from your post is the best sentance I have read yet and oh so true!!

I'm sure thats why this thread was started.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

" Racism is not always portrayed as equal among others: blacks can be racist and get away with it, while whites have to tiptoe around any subject involving race."

(a) That statement I have taken from your post is the best sentance I have read yet and oh so true!!

I'm sure thats why this thread was started.

I have said this in a thread before but whilst I dont condone any prejudice towards anyone. When it is done against a powerful majority it doesnt have the same impact

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Remember, up until the 1960s, black people were not even allowed to ride on buses with white people. That's really very very recent. He has proven that your colour does not have to hold you back.

(c) The 1960's are not really very very recent. But I understand what you are trying to say. [/quote]


This is relatively recently. Generations of black americans will have grown up being treated differently and looked upon as worthless scum. Not too distant relatives will have experienced extreme racist agression towards them sooo yes they are going to be proud to see a black American in the Whitehouse and most ordinary good people of any colour can see that that is progression and we are moving on from a terrible past. [/quote]

(a) I have watched the film "Roots" and I know the "Klu Klux Clan" still exists. Also racism exists in America just like in Great Britain. Also, I was simply pointing out that the 1960's were not that recent. Forum member "Ruth" said very very recent.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by frontstorm

(a) I have watched the film "Roots" and I know the "Klu Klux Clan" still exists. Also racism exists in America just like in Great Britain. Also, I was simply pointing out that the 1960's were not that recent. Forum member "Ruth" said very very recent.

I guess it's contextual. I'd say it's very recent since it's experienced by our current generation. But then that depends if you count that as "recent".

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

(c) The 1960's are not really very very recent. But I understand what you are trying to say.

This is relatively recently. Generations of black americans will have grown up being treated differently and looked upon as worthless scum. Not too distant relatives will have experienced extreme racist agression towards them sooo yes they are going to be proud to see a black American in the Whitehouse and most ordinary good people of any colour can see that that is progression and we are moving on from a terrible past. [/quote]

(a) I have watched the film "Roots" and I know the "Klu Klux Clan" still exists. Also racism exists in America just like in Great Britain. Also, I was simply pointing out that the 1960's were not that recent. Forum member "Ruth" said very very recent. [/quote]

Yeh of course they still exist but they have little power or influence obviously. And its all recent enough to be still in the psyche of black Americans

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by Lauren

I guess it's contextual. I'd say it's very recent since it's experienced by our current generation. But then that depends if you count that as "recent".

(a) If thats what she meant then I apologise.

A large portion of Obama/McCain voters will have the credit crunch and Iraq and terrorism and so fourth on their minds. Nothing further back than the 1990's imo will bother them.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

(a) If thats what she meant then I apologise.

A large portion of Obama/McCain voters will have the credit crunch and Iraq and terrorism and so fourth on their minds. Nothing further back than the 1990's imo will bother them.

yeh I agree its more likely Obamas policies than the fact that he was a black man that got his votes. but you can understand how black people would be so proud.

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh of course they still exist but they have little power or influence obviously. And its all recent enough to be still in the psyche of black Americans

(a) I'm sure they do have very little power today, but they do have a voice which plenty of Americans sympathise with and those who do will not vote for a black president. They will either refuse to vote altogether as they don't wish to see a republican rule once more, or the opposite.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

I'm sure they do have very little power today, but they do have a voice which plenty of Americans sympathise with and those who do will not vote for a black president. They will either refuse to vote altogether as they don't wish to see a republican rule once more, or the opposite.

Oh yeh Im sure there were many who didnt vote purely because he was black infact Ive read as much on other forums

[NettoSuperstar!]

And why have I had a karma removed when Im having a perfectly civil debate!!!!? ah I think I know why! I dont tolerate racism

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

yeh I agree its more likely Obamas policies than the fact that he was a black man that got his votes. but you can understand how black people would be so proud.

He was voted in because he was a democrat and also a great actor. You need to sell yourself to the people of America and Obama and his cabinet have. "cabinet" not really what the Americans use but you know what I mean.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

He was voted in because he was a democrat and also a great actor. You need to sell yourself to the people of America and Obama and his cabinet have. "cabinet" not really what the Americans use but you know what I mean.

I disagree with the actor bit when your look at his history and political career, he seems genuine to me

[Nurse57]

I know I am digging an old thread up.

"(a) You maybe glad, but stating that John McCain. (Thats with two "cC", not "ck") couldn't run a chippy is just your way of showing us of how little you know about the man."

I have to ask. How would he reach the pickled eggs?

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
the last change we need is the Conservatives! thats a step backwards!!

But Brown is even more Backwards
using the BNP slogan
'British Jobs For British Workers'
Fact.