[Tom]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Ok so she's done it now. Fair play to her but as I've said she should have done it a week ago.

Her VT spoke volumes. I've started to like most of the HM's who had poor VT's but not her. She's living up to having a high opinion of herself.

She didn't say it outright but she was saying how he has charm but not in a good way, he uses it to be sleazy etc ... I can't actually remember (was half asleep) but I know she did say something like that, very negative towards him anyway

If he didn't get the message after that then ....

[K8TM]

he has got the msg but hes not taking no for an answer the dirty perv

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ange7
Yes she did ... and he read it loud and clear. Yet he persisted. That's why I think it's all Sree's staged romance for the sympathy vote. "we are just friends" would be clear enough for you and me. But it WAS clear enough for Sree too ....he wasn't done playing to the cams and getting the "poor Sree" comments from the HM's If that's not clear enough then wtf?
re Davs question
yep she may be asked that but mate... what does it prove? A question asked isn't a proof. It doesn't prove that they THINK she should have told him clearer. Surely a better proof would be to watch the show and bring that to the argument instead of waiting to see what Dav asks

Who's wating to see waht Davina say? My point its that other feel the same way I do and have posted as much. If you choose to believe that this 'relationship' is one sided and there is no playing by Noirin then tell me why do you think she's cosying up to Marcus when most people admit he's made worse comments than Sree?

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Who's wating to see waht Davina say? My point its that other feel the same way I do and have posted as much. If you choose to believe that this 'relationship' is one sided and there is no playing by Noirin then tell me why do you think she's cosying up to Marcus when most people admit he's made worse comments than Sree?

She is using Marcus to end Sree's chase

[JustSkipIt]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I'm not denying Sree is failing to pick up the signals but that doesnt disguise the fact that she has not told him straight.

As for women hating her - her words not mine. Would you like to take another look at her VT? I'm sure its on youtube.

Aren't you missing the point here?

Even if Noirin were head-over-heels in love with Sree or a total slut, his treatment of her would be out of order.

He physically restrains her when she tries to get away from him,
he's pretended to slap her when she irked him, and now he's swung a clenched fist at her face in an act of frustration.
THEN he said "I only Joke', 'We Still Friends"

Hate Noirin as much as you like, but whatever his sins, he is out of order treating her or anyone else this way.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Not at all. I can read signals bad vibes from women pretty well trust me I've had plenty of practice. I'm just saying what she said is not telling someone straight. I've given you an example in an earlier post of what I think she needed to say.

You've given an example of what YOU think she needed to say!! But like I've said before in my opinion telling some one "I just want to be friends" is saying it straight!! No hidden messages, you don't have to be good at reading signs for that one really!! The only reason it didn't work is because Sree didn't want it to be true so he choose not to hear it!!

[arsenalforever]

Lets be honest here

Sree marcus and Noirin ain't actually nice people are they

let them play mind games and fight makes better t.v at the end of the day

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by JustSkipIt
Aren't you missing the point here?

Even if Noirin were head-over-heels in love with Sree or a total slut, his treatment of her would be out of order.

He physically restrains her when she tries to get away from him,
he's pretended to slap her when she irked him, and now he's swung a clenched fist at her face in an act of frustration.
THEN he said "I only Joke', 'We Still Friends"

Hate Noirin as much as you like, but whatever his sins, he is out of order treating her or anyone else this way.

I'm not missing the point I just not choosing to see it as some do. I'm not a fan of the girl so lets set that records straight. I think Sree is too overpowering but I think if she's as in control as she wants to come across then she could not have handled this more poorly. I think she initially played along but as it became more serious she failed to assert herself. I think her game has backfired and now she playing more games to make up. I think she's a rather foolish girl with a massively inflated ego.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Lets be honest here

Sree marcus and Noirin ain't actually nice people are they

let them play mind games and fight makes better t.v at the end of the day

I really like Noirin actually, I think she is a nice person but she's in an awkward situation. I do think she's after creating a situation with Marcus that she didn't want cos I don't think she knew he'd get so sleazy!! She probably feels like if she says anything to him now it will look bad after the whole Sree thing!!

[JustSkipIt]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

Its just the haters trying to make a big deal out of something little

If Bb taught it was serious they would have done something

I have no idea why BB hasn't had words with Sree - he's done more than enough to warrant a warning IMO.
Perhaps they think Noirin's happiness is a small sacrifice to make to pull in a few more viewers

Personally, I'd like the chance to see what the others are getting up to - they might be just as entertaining, but we'd never know so long as C4 keeps airing The Scrote Show

[yousoboo!]

Get Kris OUT!!!

[ange7]

Originally posted by PaulyJ

She is using Marcus to end Sree's chase

yeah
ps
" My point its that other feel the same way I do and have posted as much" ..? So? Then make the argument mate. Finding the truth about something IS NOT a democratic process. It's not a numbers game it's a about making the point. Saying the thread agrees with you isn't an automatic win hehe. anyway they don't seem to agree with you right now though.
Noirin nor any women for any reason deserved the rubbish that came straight from Sree's ego. That she some how brought it on herself doesn't wash with me.

[ange7]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I'm not missing the point I just not choosing to see it as some do. I'm not a fan of the girl so lets set that records straight. I think Sree is too overpowering but I think if she's as in control as she wants to come across then she could not have handled this more poorly. I think she initially played along but as it became more serious she failed to assert herself. I think her game has backfired and now she playing more games to make up. I think she's a rather foolish girl with a massively inflated ego.

"her game"
dude whatever

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ange7yeah
ps
" My point its that other feel the same way I do and have posted as much" ..? So? Then make the argument mate. Finding the truth about something IS NOT a democratic process. It's not a numbers game it's a about making the point. Saying the thread agrees with you isn't an automatic win hehe. anyway they don't seem to agree with you right now though.
Noirin nor any women for any reason deserved the rubbish that came straight from Sree's ego. That she some how brought it on herself doesn't wash with me.

I thought I was making a point ie That Noirins game playing has backfired and there are two sides to this argument.

[freesias]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I think I missed this. IF there was anything in it then BB would have stepped it.

I missed it too but a week ago I saw it in his eyes ( if one gets the drift)

Worrying.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ange7
dude whatever

Whatevers always a good reply isnt it? Who's failing to make a point now?

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by ange7

yeah
ps
" My point its that other feel the same way I do and have posted as much" ..? So? Then make the argument mate. Finding the truth about something IS NOT a democratic process. It's not a numbers game it's a about making the point. Saying the thread agrees with you isn't an automatic win hehe. anyway they don't seem to agree with you right now though.
Noirin nor any women for any reason deserved the rubbish that came straight from Sree's ego. That she some how brought it on herself doesn't wash with me.

I think you should read my earlier posts

The situation she was in with Sree she is absolutly blameless

It has driven her to do something decietful in using Marcus to create an ally of him, in an attempt to push Sree away.

If you can't hear you must feel kind of thing, and lets face it Sree will not listen will he

[freesias]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

Its just the haters trying to make a big deal out of something little

If Bb taught it was serious they would have done something

p..... apparently interviewed him in the diary room.

[Niamh.]

[/quote]I thought I was making a point ie That Noirins game playing has backfired and there are two sides to this argument. [/quote]

I do think you have a point alright about her using Marcus but it was more to keep Sree away from her then make him jealous, I think anyway. I also think she thought Marcus was only playing along with her for fun, I don't think she knew he was going to start acting all sleazy with her all the time, as well!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
I do think you have a point alright about her using Marcus but it was more to keep Sree away from her then make him jealous, I think anyway. I also think she thought Marcus was only playing along with her for fun, I don't think she knew he was going to start acting all sleazy with her all the time, as well!!

I think you're right that she's using Marcus to keep Sree away and I think you're right that she didnt know it was going to backfire. Hence, my feeling that she's a very stupid girl with a big ego.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I think you're right that she's using Marcus to keep Sree away and I think you're right that she didnt know it was going to backfire. Hence, my feeling that she's a very stupid girl with a big ego.

haha, Well, If her ego was that big she would have known this would happen with Marcus cos she would have known that he'd never be able to resist her!!!
I like her anyway, you should watch her with an open mind tonight and give her a chance

[JustSkipIt]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I think you're right that she's using Marcus to keep Sree away and I think you're right that she didnt know it was going to backfire. Hence, my feeling that she's a very stupid girl with a big ego.

Is it possible that, in some kind of animal away, she's affiliated herself with a large dominant male who will be able to protect her from Scrote?

Why are we discussing Noirin's game-playing in a threat to debate Scrote's acts of mock aggression? Is't there a "have a pop at Noirin" thread for these posts?

Sorry - but I kind of felt we were all leaving the topic a bit there

[GeorgeOrwell]

Originally posted by PresidentA rather disturbing screenshot of the duo: http://www.screenshotdatabase.com/in...min=09&ssec=04

Noirin struggling to get away from Sree.

While I don't disagree with your general point, that picture is actually of Noirin helping Sree up from the chair. The pictures of when he was pulling her down into the hug are earlier:

http://www.screenshotdatabase.com/in...min=08&ssec=58
http://www.screenshotdatabase.com/in...min=08&ssec=59

Tom said:
I didn't even feel uncomfortable at the treatment of Shahbaz in the opening part of BB7! But thats what I compare everything to now, noone had a problem then and most thought it was kinda funny.

I found that incredibly uncomfortable viewing.

PaulyJ said:
She knew talking to him in a sexually provocative way, ie the Cider for Nips convo, would draw Marcus(ally) into the argument with Sree and provide a way of distancing herself from him. She has been a bit deceitful in that way, sure

I'm not sure that is really deceitful, as Marcus is in on it, too. In fact, he offered his services. And the thing is it's not like she is doing anything she wouldn't otherwise be doing (she said that the reason she didn't show her boobs for a can of cider is because she was on telly - in her VT she said she practically gets naked at the drop of a hat). Sree isn't upset that she's doing things with Marcus, he's upset that she's the kind of girl who would show her boobs to someone for a can of cider - and he's upset it's not him.

It's like she's cheated on him and let him down when she was never involved with him and the version of her who was pure and innocent only ever existed in his head.

GiRTh said
...why do you think she's cosying up to Marcus when most people admit he's made worse comments than Sree?

Marcus doesn't smother her, hasn't claimed to be in love with her (quite the opposite, in fact), and hasn't said anything that she hasn't felt totally comfortable with. Marcus knows where her boundaries are and respects them.

Yes, he'll bang on about her tits and her arse, but he also checks to make sure that she doesn't mind him talking to and about her like that. Sree physically restrains her and lectures her on how she should behave, all the while telling her it's for her own good.

There's a HUGE difference there.

[Niamh.]

All very good points, very well made GeorgeOrwell!!

[JustSkipIt]

Originally posted by GeorgeOrwell

While I don't disagree with your general point, that picture is actually of Noirin helping Sree up from the chair. The pictures of when he was pulling her down into the hug are earlier:

Are you sure? Don't you usually offer your hand to help people up? He's got hold of her wrist.

Originally posted by GeorgeOrwell
Marcus doesn't smother her… hasn't said anything that she hasn't felt totally comfortable with…Sree physically restrains her and lectures her on how she should behave, all the while telling her it's for her own good.

There's a HUGE difference there.

Here here
Couldn't agree more
It's not even that he lives by the rules he dictates to her. I'd have loved to have seen his face if Noirin had danced with one of the blokes in the way he was dancing with Dogface