[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Unless Phil Bump works for betfred or William Hill, I'm afraid we'll have to ignore him

"odds are certainly not the be all and end all, but they are relevant"

If odds are irreverent, then what's the point in having them, ever? And they're not just based on the money laid out.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Swan

"odds are certainly not the be all and end all, but they are relevant"

If odds are irreverent, then what's the point in having them, ever? And they're not just based on the money laid out.

Bookies want people to still think it's a 2 horse race and trump has an equal chance because that's how bookies make money. When people lose, they win.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Bookies want people to still think it's a 2 horse race and trump has an equal chance because that's how bookies make money. When people lose, they win.

Everyone is saying it'll be close, the odds reflect that

[Denver]

Biden is definitely getting the most votes but it all comes down to which states he wins

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Denver

Biden is definitely getting the most votes but it all comes down to which states he wins

Yeah and the odds reflect that too

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...ar-vote-winner

Popular vote Biden 1/4 Trump 5/2. Biden clear favourite

[Oliver_W]

Do presidents often lose the Popular Vote?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do presidents often lose the Popular Vote?

the popular vote isn't actually relevant in the same way that it's irrelevant here. The election system is an agreed process

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do presidents often lose the Popular Vote?

I think it's pretty rare.

[Denver]

Biden needs to target some of the big States that are worth lots of points

[Swan]

Actually yeah it's very rare, only GWB in 2000 and Trump 2016 for well over 100 years

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Swan

Actually yeah it's very rare, only GWB in 2000 and Trump 2016 for well over 100 years

A president serving an 8-year term without winning the popular vote on either election has never happened before in US political history, this will be a first (assuming he wins the electoral college and loses the popular vote again, which I sadly think is the most likely scenario).

IMO given that unlike the UK, the US is a two-party election... this heavily indicates a broken system.

[Liam-]

[Ammi]

Trump Orders Reporter To Remove His Mask At Press Briefing...



https://uk.yahoo.com/news/face-mask-...234423760.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Trump Orders Reporter To Remove His Mask At Press Briefing...



https://uk.yahoo.com/news/face-mask-...234423760.html

Sure the reporter was muffled
but then he spoke louder
so all was well

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Liam-]

Good on the reporter for refusing, Donny looked like a petulant child

[caprimint]

[Oliver_W]

If Trump really couldn't understand the reporter, he should have gotten someone else to repeat the question. Asking anyone to remove a mask is a bit irresponsible.

[caprimint]

If people are allowed to go to bars I don't see why it's a problem to remove it when he's feet away from him

And the guy was muffled, I couldn't understand what he was saying either until he spoke louder

[caprimint]

This shade was my fave part though

[The Slim Reaper]

Are you an anti-masker too, Stacey?

[caprimint]

Not sure why you'd make such assumptions

[The Slim Reaper]

An assumption would be me assuming you were. A question is me asking if you are. You loved trump shading the mask wearers, so it seemed like a reasonable question to me.

[Beso]

Dont you think people should be free to decide for themselves on the matter of masks slim?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Dont you think people should be free to decide for themselves on the matter of masks slim?

Not really, no. Masks protect others from us, so wearing a mask is to protect everyone. I do think that if masks only protected the wearer, then it should be down to choice.

Let me ask you a hypothetical; if you caught it and passed it onto an elderly neighbour, friend, or relative that died from it, would you think that was a victory for personal liberty, or would you feel as though that perhaps wearing a mask wasn't really that big of an issue?