[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris has lost every single vote so far, that must be a record

Apparently it is. Lost 6 votes in 6 days.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris has lost every single vote so far, that must be a record

Not the most illustrious of starts

[arista]

Yes around the speaker
on the Labour side this was a fight
Now the Speaker and the Conservatives
have marched into the House of Lords.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes around the speaker
on the Labour side this was a fight
Now the Speaker and the Conservatives
have marched into the House of Lords.

It’s all a joke to a lot of them isn’t it

[Kazanne]

Emily Thornberry getting in a right old pickle on GMTV,LOL Piers and Susanna running rings around her

[joeysteele]

If all this now really forces power mad Johnson to actually seriously go for a good agreement now with the EU.
Which parliament has put in place that will be the only way he won't need to ask for a delay.
Then all the fuss will be worth it.

If he doesn't, then he does risk not just breaking the law but getting into really big bother personally.

He should reflect, he needed 434 MPs to support a general election.
He got only 293 votes.
Even with his own MPs, inc the ones he kicked out, yes HE kicked out, no one else.
Plus the DUP.
He should have sailed past the 310 mark at least.

So no one wanted an election except the hard-line supporters he has and those just about staying with him for now.

293 is nowhere near a normal parliamentary majority, never mind the 434 needed.

I wonder, since HE claims to want to hear from voters..
He doesn't however as he knew fine well after his disregard for democracy and dictatorial stance,no way could he get an election, under his own Party's fixed term Parliament act.
I wonder though, what result he'd have got had he offered an election or confirmatory referendum on ' no deal' or remain.

As for Labour's policy, which however needs to be debated and endorsed at the Party conference.

If Labour had a new agreement with the EU.
Labour would still put that new deal for confirmatory support from voters, alongside remain choice.
In that scenario, Labour would explain the deal but be happy with either outcome.

It is only in a no deal or remain referendum, that then Labour would support remain.

Perfectly sensible and easy to understand to me anyway.

After all the mess of this and the last PMs own making.
Labours plan is the voters must approve a deal,no deal or remain.
A deal still desirably approved by voters no matter who negotiates the deal.

All seems the better and more democratic way to go in my view anyway.

[Alf]

What people voted for has got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, they're free to vote how they wish.

It's not for you to tell other people that they didn't know what they voted for, it's none of your business how or what they voted for.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

What people voted for has got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, they're free to vote how they wish.

It's not for you to tell other people that they didn't know what they voted for, it's none of your business how or what they voted for.

Except it does. Leave win the referendum, so let's say that even 5% of them voted because they were promised night after night on these news shows that brexit would make them better off because we'd hold all the cards in future deals, or that germany would come begging.

Just like anyone voting tory over the last decade have heaped austerity on the most at risk and vulnerable, so it absolutely affects people, what/why others voted the way they did.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Except it does. Leave win the referendum, so let's say that even 5% of them voted because they were promised night after night on these news shows that brexit would make them better off because we'd hold all the cards in future deals, or that germany would come begging.

Just like anyone voting tory over the last decade have heaped austerity on the most at risk and vulnerable, so it absolutely affects people, what/why others voted the way they did.

They voted to leave because they don't like Communism.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

They voted to leave because they don't like Communism.

And you obviously don't even know what communism means if you think that.

You're not helping to disprove leavers were unaware of what they were voting for.

[Alf]

Do you know all those votes that Boris lost in Parliament this week? Not of them should count, because none of those MPs knew what they was voting for, so that automatically means that those things can't be implemented. I decided that they didn't know what they was voting for and you have to agree with me.

[arista]

"The Irish were confined to the less fertile land. Their smallholdings were divided up between sons so that by the 1840s,"


Yes Hard Times
way back in early 1800's
but now you are dependent on the EU masters

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

"The Irish were confined to the less fertile land. Their smallholdings were divided up between sons so that by the 1840s,"


Yes Hard Times
way back in early 1800's
but now you are dependent on the EU masters

Don't be ridiculous, but lets say for one second that Ireland is dependent on their EU masters, what happens to them when you take it away?

Who cares as long as you win brexit, right?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

"The Irish were confined to the less fertile land. Their smallholdings were divided up between sons so that by the 1840s,"


Yes Hard Times
way back in early 1800's
but now you are dependent on the EU masters

atleast they've not come over and stolen our land yet eh?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

"The Irish were confined to the less fertile land. Their smallholdings were divided up between sons so that by the 1840s,"


Yes Hard Times
way back in early 1800's
but now you are dependent on the EU masters

EU masters

[Twosugars]

I do hope for a public inquiry and prison sentences once brexit goes tits up

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I do hope for a public inquiry and prison sentences once brexit goes tits up

Negative like that
is the wrong way to think.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Negative like that
is the wrong way to think.

You want to push people further into poverty because you voted for the side of a referendum that broke the law, lied, and cheated, so please explain how wanting justice for that, makes ts the negative one?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You want to push people further into poverty because you voted for the side of a referendum that broke the law, lied, and cheated, so please explain how wanting justice for that, makes ts the negative one?

No those in Poverty
are normal.

Broke what Law?
They paid the fine.
All normal.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

No those in Poverty
are normal.

Broke what Law?
They paid the fine.
All normal.

The range of behaviours by trump or brexiters you are prepared to excuse is troubling

And yet bc for because makes you see red...

[arista]

Yes Dom
you tell em'

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Dom
you tell em'

He lives in a 1.6 million townhouse that has it's own tapestry room, he is a multi millionaire and his wife's family own a castle.

Yes, those elitist remainers.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He lives in a 1.6 million townhouse that has it's own tapestry room, he is a multi millionaire and his wife's family own a castle.

Yes, those elitist remainers.

Typical right wing deflection, Anyone with sense knows that it'll be the elites that benefit from a no deal situation.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He lives in a 1.6 million townhouse that has it's own tapestry room, he is a multi millionaire and his wife's family own a castle.

Yes, those elitist remainers.

...I can’t believe he actually said that with absolutely no self awareness at all...he should get out of London and get over to NI to talk to the people about their stock piles of wealth...and how terrified they are of losing them now..?...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I can’t believe he actually said that with absolutely no self awareness at all...he should get out of London and get over to NI to talk to the people about their stock piles of wealth...and how terrified they are of losing them now..?...

That sounds like the landowners from the 1840s..I bet they were also rlterrified of losing thier stock piles of wealth.