[the truth]

Some people are way more perceptive than others, they can read your character and personality pretty quickly from all sorts of tell tale signs.....by listening , by observing their body language, tone of voice, eyes, expressions, lines in your hands etc etc those people that tend to be more observant and patient tend to read people better.....if theres no such thing as spirituality or joy then why the heck does the world need music and love? theres way more to life than the limited predictable narrow minded views of some people. but I draw the line at taking fortune tellers too seriously. I treat it as a bit of fun. I believe we choose our own destinies.

Originally Posted by the truth

Some people are way more perceptive than others, they can read your character and personality pretty quickly from all sorts of tell tale signs.....by listening , by observing their body language, tone of voice, eyes, expressions, lines in your hands etc etc those people that tend to be more observant and patient tend to read people better.....if theres no such thing as spirituality or joy then why the heck does the world need music and love? theres way more to life than the limited predictable narrow minded views of some people. but I draw the line at taking fortune tellers too seriously. I treat it as a bit of fun. I believe we choose our own destinies.

How on earth does that mean anything?

[lostalex]

No. They are frauds. Some of them are con artists and know they are faking it, and some of them genuinely believe they are psychic, but they are all frauds one way or the other.

[lostalex]

can we please stop pretending that just because someone claims to have a "supernatural" experience that it's real? kthanx.

seek help.

Think about it this way, just like in the criminal justice system we presume someone is innocent before they are found guilty... also remember that these type of supernatural experiences need to be proven TRUE before you call them true. We should always wait for something to be PROVEN true, before we call it true.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

can we please stop pretending that just because someone claims to have a "supernatural" experience that it's real? kthanx.

seek help.

Think about it this way, just like in the criminal justice system we presume someone is innocent before they are found guilty... also remember that these type of supernatural experiences need to be proven TRUE before you call them true. We should always wait for something to be PROVEN true, before we call it true.

..Alex, I can't generalise about everyone who claims to have psychic abilities and of course I can't prove them to be true...tbh, I don't even know what I believe to be true with regards to it either..but my own personal 'proof' of this one time experience is that the few things she told me did come true and they were very specific and not something that she could generalise about...there is not really anything else which can be 'proven' about that experience other than what she said did come about...

..I have nothing else to say on the subject as really I don't know anything about it, nor do I have any wish to enlighten myself more either....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..Alex, I can't generalise about everyone who claims to have psychic abilities and of course I can't prove them to be true...tbh, I don't even know what I believe to be true with regards to it either..but my own personal 'proof' of this one time experience is that the few things she told me did come true and they were very specific and not something that she could generalise about...there is not really anything else which can be 'proven' about that experience other than what she said did come about...

..I have nothing else to say on the subject as really I don't know anything about it, nor do I have any wish to enlighten myself more either....

but if you believed it to be true, then maybe you MADE it true. A self fulfilling prophecy.

Like a placebo.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but if you believed it to be true, then maybe you MADE it true. A self fulfilling prophecy.

Like a placebo.

..so I 'willed' that person to die then..in the month that I was told they would, even though I had no knowledge of them being ill at the time...?..

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so I 'willed' that person to die then..in the month that I was told they would, even though I had no knowledge of them being ill at the time...?..

no, but you associated it with the prophecy to make it fit with the narrative you were given. You willed it to be part of the narrative you were given, I wasn't saying in any way that you MADE someone else die. i don't think think you or the psychic had anything to do with the actual death, you are missing my point.

What if she told 100 other people about a death and she got it wrong, would you know about it? i doubt she advertises her failure rate. but i bet she's very proud of her success rate, right?

If this psychic is actually able to predict when people will die, then why isn't she using her skill with a police force to help the police prevent murders? or hospitals to prevent deaths?

[Jords]

Nope Id like to have it done 1 day just as an experience. I think theyre pretty intelligent on picking up things people say and working it.