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Old 18-06-2013, 08:10 AM #1
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I see nothing remotely decent as to a man having his hand/s at a woman's throat,especially when it would seem clear there was some disagreement at best going on between them in public.

I am glad he has been cautioned and if Nigella had any sense she would get away from him in my view.
It is these so called playful things happening that often lead to far worse,I am aware that Nigella can likely stand up for herself but you don't leave your home for any period with your youngest son following a playful tiff.
I agree. I don't think the photos are anywhere near as serious as the papers drummed them up to be but what they do show is an unhealthy relationship so I'm glad she's moved out of their marital home. Even if he was just being unusually condescending in trying to get her to stop speaking, I still think that's wildly inappropriate and at least she has the courage to not stand for that and has moved out. I know I would be fuming if someone I was dating put their hands round my neck or over my mouth, ESPECIALLY in public, how humiliating...!
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I agree. I don't think the photos are anywhere near as serious as the papers drummed them up to be but what they do show is an unhealthy relationship so I'm glad she's moved out of their marital home. Even if he was just being unusually condescending in trying to get her to stop speaking, I still think that's wildly inappropriate and at least she has the courage to not stand for that and has moved out. I know I would be fuming if someone I was dating put their hands round my neck or over my mouth, ESPECIALLY in public, how humiliating...!
Absolutely, anyone doing that to me would not get the chance to do so again.
I'd be off,away from them completely, it shows no decency or respect whatsoever.
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Apparently Nigella is no longer living in the marital home Joey,so hopefully she is safe.
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Apparently Nigella is no longer living in the marital home Joey,so hopefully she is safe.
That's good, I really like Nigella. She deserves better than this.
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Humiliating and upsetting your partner in public could never by any stretch of the imagination be considered "playful"!.
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Humiliating and upsetting your partner in public could never by any stretch of the imagination be considered "playful"!.
I 100% agree Cherie.
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I have no respect for people who resort to physical violence in a romantic relationship as a way of dealing with problems; and while it may not have come to blows, I think he has no respect for her as a person if he's placing his hands over her mouth or round her neck, and that lack of respect in a relationship is in my opinion why domestic violence occurs. If he truly respected her as a person and as his partner, he wouldn't have placed his hands on her in that way, in my opinion.
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Charles Saachi voluntarily walked into a police station, presumably to cut short this trial by media, where the only people who profit are the paps and the lawyers. Everyone wringing their hands about poor Nigella should bear in mind that this happened over a week ago, and no complaint was made by Nigella herself. So it looks like some people are far more upset than Nigella herself was.
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[QUOTE=Livia;6077213]Charles Saachi voluntarily walked into a police station, presumably to cut short this trial by media, where the only people who profit are the paps and the lawyers. Everyone wringing their hands about poor Nigella should bear in mind that this happened over a week ago, and no complaint was made by Nigella herself. So it looks like some people are far more upset than Nigella herself was.[/QUOTE]

Many victims of abuse are very slow to report their partners, mainly because they have been conditioned to believe they are at fault for their partners behaviour. Nigella has moved out that is far more telling than reporting him, he is after all a seriously rich man who can employ top lawyers to defend himself. He has attended a police station presumably on the advice of his lawyers to minimise the damage to his public persona, nothing more.

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Charles Saachi voluntarily walked into a police station, presumably to cut short this trial by media, where the only people who profit are the paps and the lawyers. Everyone wringing their hands about poor Nigella should bear in mind that this happened over a week ago, and no complaint was made by Nigella herself. So it looks like some people are far more upset than Nigella herself was.[/QUOTE]

Many victims of abuse are very slow to report their partners, mainly because they have been conditioned to believe they are at fault for their partners behaviour. Nigella has moved out that is far more telling than reporting him, he is after all a seriously rich man who can employ top lawyers to defend himself. He has attended a police station presumably on the advice of his lawyers to minimise the damage to his public persona, nothing more.
So your assumption is that Nigella has been conditioned by long-term abuse, again with absolutely no proof apart from your imagination. Nigella's not exactly a pauper herself, you know, and I'm sure could afford a pretty good lawyer. And yes, Saachi may well have been advised to take himself to the police. However, I have highlighted the operative word in your last sentence.
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Charles Saachi voluntarily walked into a police station, presumably to cut short this trial by media, where the only people who profit are the paps and the lawyers. Everyone wringing their hands about poor Nigella should bear in mind that this happened over a week ago, and no complaint was made by Nigella herself. So it looks like some people are far more upset than Nigella herself was.

I have highlighted yours as well, of course it is all speculation, but I can understand why she might not have reported him.
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Going voluntarily to the police is likely only because he may have had a tip off they would be coming for him anyway in relation to this incident.

To be given the caution,he will have to have admitted committing an assault in a public place,had he been protesting his innocence or otherwise as to it being fun then the caution would not have been given to him and the matter probably taken further by the police.
To get away with a caution,he will have to have said he was guilty of it.

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Going voluntarily to the police is likely only because he may have had a tip off they would be coming for him anyway in relation to this incident.
You mean like a call from "a friend in the force", perhaps someone in the same Freemasons Lodge, maybe a Chief Inspector .....
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You mean like a call from "a friend in the force", perhaps someone in the same Freemasons Lodge, maybe a Chief Inspector .....
Well really in fact ,it was said in the press too that the police were looking into the incident anyway so he would have been rather foolish to not expect them going to talk to him at some stage.
He did only go once the story came out and was made known.
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Well really in fact ,it was said in the press too that the police were looking into the incident anyway so he would have been rather foolish to not expect them going to talk to him at some stage.
He did only go once the story came out and was made known.
Isn't it more likely that he was just invited to "attend for interview" as many celebrities, like Tulisa recently, are ?

There's no need for secret "tip-offs", surely - they belong in the world of snitches, grasses and frames.
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Isn't it more likely that he was just invited to "attend for interview" as many celebrities, like Tulisa recently, are ?

There's no need for secret "tip-offs", surely - they belong in the world of snitches, grasses and frames.
Indeed, that is a possibility too Omah, however if you read my post properly you will see I said he may have had a tip off,I did not say he had for certain.
No matter why,how or what the reason was he went to the police, he got a caution when he did for committing the assault.
That is enough for me.

I stated nothing for certain expect that he would have had to admit he committed assault to get away with that caution.
If he was innocent then he could have fought it had he wished to but he chose to take the caution and admit his guilt.

Having said that and really I shouldn't need to point his out, had he not gone after being invited to go by the police,then I think even he would have been pretty sure they would have at some point gone for him eventually since they were investigating the incident.
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She should, the lad may well decide to grab him round his scrawny old throat haha!
But the lad may be bearing in mind his future share of Saatchi's fortune - currently estimated at £128 million.

It will probably inhibit any grabbing!
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Why would he, necessarily, have a "future share of Saatchi's fortune" .....
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Speaking to the London Evening Standard, Saatchi said: "Although Nigella made no complaint, I volunteered to go to Charing Cross station and take a police caution after a discussion with my lawyer because I thought it was better than the alternative of this hanging over all of us for months."
Always best to consult the lawyer before "volunteering" for anything .....
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Not just hands up, "I done it", "You naughty boy", <smacked wrist>, endof, then .....
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Saatchi’s second wife, American-born art collector Kay Hartenstein, mother of his daughter Phoebe, 19, was dumped by Saatchi, who moved the newly-widowed Nigella and her children into his home in Eaton Square, Belgravia, barely nine months after Diamond’s death. Saatchi and Hartenstein then became embroiled in a bitter divorce fought on the grounds of his ‘unreasonable behaviour’ that ran up a £1 million legal bill.

Saatchi’s first marriage, to advertising executive Doris Lockhart, also ended when she divorced him citing ‘unreasonable behaviour’ after 17 years.
Saatchi’s third marriage - in the balance?

Not a particularly bad track record of marriage for an emotionally volatile wealthy man aged 70, but not one I'd be proud of .....
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TROUBLED Nigella Lawson sits alone at a café table — ten days after another diner visit sparked a fateful row with her tycoon hubby.

The Domestic Goddess, 53, looked pale and drawn as she spoke on her mobile yesterday — notably minus her wedding ring — close to the Mayfair bolthole where she has been living apart from Charles Saatchi.

It was the first time the sexy chef had been seen in public since fleeing the couple’s home last Sunday.

Nigella left her £10,000-a-week rented apartment in central London shortly after 10am yesterday — WITHOUT her gold wedding band.

Unaccompanied and wearing little make-up, she appeared to have lost weight since she was last pictured leaving the family home, where Saatchi, 70, continues to live.

She paced just 20 yards to a restaurant for a late breakfast. But within seconds she walked out again to take a call on her phone, then trawled distractedly up and down the street, deep in conversation.

At one point Nigella, in knee-length boots, trousers and a blouse, grew so engrossed that she sat at the café table.

It is understood Nigella has been at the flat since Monday.
Of course, the ring may be off for cleaning or repair .....
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