[the truth]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Sorry,Too much common sense in your post,Mods,delete this.lol

I may get booted for this lol

[anne666]

Originally Posted by the truth

these posters who seem to think paedophiles only exist in the Church and hopelessly deluded...they seem to think they are telling us something amazing and original as if we don't know? we know.....paedophilia just as any other criminal type exists in every career, every vocation, within every government and every institution. the church has billions of followers and 100,000s of preachers....there will be a small percentage of criminals there just as there is everywhere else....it doesn't make the whole thing crrupt because of these minority of sickos....just as in every other walk of life....the vast majority are good people and the good work that's done by the Christian church across the globe is phenomenal and way under reported..savings tens of thusands of lives, feeding the poor and impoverished and raising billions for charities.....but then again the shock jocks and attention seekers are not interested in this or seeking balance, they just sensationalize and try to destroy the church for their own shallow amusement

This

[Shaun]

parmnion making a trolling thread? well i never

[anne666]

Are you saying that if you weren't a Christian you wouldn't be capable of forgiveness? Is forgiveness only a preserve of Christians? I think not. I ,as a Human Being of no religious domination, am capable of forgiveness . I see this man as the natural product of his environment from birth to now.That is exactly who he is and how he behaves, as most people are. He needs to acknowledge that himself and get professional help to stop playing out his many serious issues on innocent people.

[Johnnyuk123]

Jimmy Savile was a devout christian wasn't he?

[calyman]

Neither I nor the O P have any right to "forgive" this thug. We merely witnessed his violent actions and threatening behaviour. If he is to be "forgiven", then it's those who may have been threatened, intimidated or abused by him that have the right to do so.

Also, "forgiviness" does not mean the slate is wiped clean. There are certain obligations placed upon the "forgiven" to change or moderate their behaviours. It seems apparent that Daley has many excuses as to why he has acted this way but no evidence of his desire to learn from and change such behaviours.

In the absence of such personal change any "forgiviness" is worth absolutely nothing, other than perhaps empowering and encouraging such thugs as Daley not to take personal responsibility for their own actions.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by calyman

Neither I nor the O P have any right to "forgive" this thug. We merely witnessed his violent actions and threatening behaviour. If he is to be "forgiven", then it's those who may have been threatened, intimidated or abused by him that have the right to do so.

Also, "forgiviness" does not mean the slate is wiped clean. There are certain obligations placed upon the "forgiven" to change or moderate their behaviours. It seems apparent that Daley has many excuses as to why he has acted this way but no evidence of his desire to learn from and change such behaviours.

In the absence of such personal change any "forgiviness" is worth absolutely nothing, other than perhaps empowering and encouraging such thugs as Daley not to take personal responsibility for their own actions.

in short...REPENT

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by parmnion

cause im christian and he has apologised. it is clear to see that drink was to blame as there is no way he would have acted like that sober..so im blaming the drink and not dayley.

Hes a cool sound guy by the looks of it and would be a cool mate to have.

Are you for real? He apologised did he??? He didnt apologise in the sense that he said what he did to Hazel was wrong and he was sorry he hurt her. He is a dreadful human being and how ANYONE could condone it beats me. Drink shouldnt be blamed for it. He wasnt THAT drunk

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Are you for real? He apologised did he??? He didnt apologise in the sense that he said what he did to Hazel was wrong and he was sorry he hurt her. He is a dreadful human being and how ANYONE could condone it beats me. Drink shouldnt be blamed for it. He wasnt THAT drunk

HE DIDNT HURT HER he threatened to her, BIG DIFFERENCE

[actor99]

well we have to forgive not always easy. because if we don't forgive then neither are we forgiven. but if Dailey needs help he should get it. somewhere. looks like he does. well he gone now so we have to move on I guess

[amu]

I think it would be difficult for any man not to react like Daley if they are beeing provoked in that way.

[Northern Monkey]

I think,Alot of us have probably said and done things that we wish we had'nt whilst drunk,Just not on national TV!Doh!Daley was an idiot for sure,I think alot was blown out of proportion though,But what can you expect,It's TV,Everyone sees it.