[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Eggngog

I'm still a bit confused on the whole Setanta thing. He was a bit ... involved ... with this whole using the internet business but at the same time it felt like a group of young kids kicking a dog to death then screaming "YOU ALL SAW HIM. HE BIT ME".

He became incredibly popular to bait by the same group of fucking boring thugs for weeks on end. Even if he killed the pope and gave the queen a wedgie in the meantime it's important to note that, I think. Total mob justice.

He once made a post addressing every member he dislikes with the deepest and most personal insults he could think of, it was beyond forgiveness imo.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Jessus

He once made a post addressing every member he dislikes with the deepest and most personal insults he could think of, it was beyond forgiveness imo.

To be fair I have never seen it.

It sounds brilliant, though.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jessus

He once made a post addressing every member he dislikes with the deepest and most personal insults he could think of, it was beyond forgiveness imo.

You weren't so sweet and innocent yourself during Setantagate (nor was I)

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

You weren't so sweet and innocent yourself during Setantagate (nor was I)

Setantagate?

I know I made a lot of bad decisions in the past, I was having a tough time irl back then, but I wont make excuses for myself, I regret how I treated people and I wish I could apologise personally to everyone who I offended but there's just too many to list. I hope that I learned from that, I try not to hold grudges. It's unfair to make this about me when there are so many different factors involved.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Eggngog

I'm still a bit confused on the whole Setanta thing. He was a bit ... involved ... with this whole using the internet business but at the same time it felt like a group of young kids kicking a dog to death then screaming "YOU ALL SAW HIM. HE BIT ME".

He became incredibly popular to bait by the same group of fucking boring thugs for weeks on end. Even if he killed the pope and gave the queen a wedgie in the meantime it's important to note that, I think. Total mob justice.

I thought it was because he was being completely sexually inappropriate towards underaged female members

[Stu]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

I thought it was because he was being completely sexually inappropriate towards underaged female members

To be fair I have never seen it.

It sounds weird, though.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

What did he do?

[joeysteele]

I don't like the thought of members banned for good or indefinitely but I do abide by what the mods decide, after all they have to do what is 'best' for the whole forum, not a snapshot of members.

Whether I get along with anyone or not wouldn't cloud how I feel as to giving people another chance with them being given the full knowledge that one more incident would have them banned indefinitely or permanently.

I myself didn't particularly get on with Scott as I recall but I would support a review and I had absolutely no big issues with him at all.
As I hadn't with Stacey either,I never got why she was banned,I really liked her,she got me into liking Taylor Swift and we had some good discussions as to her CDs.

In the end it is down to the mods and admin on this issue and I am sure overall they do what is best for the whole forum as to these things so I support their judgement on this.

[Benjamin]

I'm in two minds. I like Scott, he does make me laugh most of the time but this blog of his he knew how spiteful it was and he controlled every thing that was posted to it and then made sure it was brought onsite for everyone to see.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I'm in two minds. I like Scott, he does make me laugh most of the time but this blog of his he knew how spiteful it was and he controlled every thing that was posted to it and then made sure it was brought onsite for everyone to see.

Could he not return on say a trial period f 3/6months?

..any period of return is a 'trial period' though, because it's his 'last chance' and no one knows that more than he does....

[Pete.]

what did stacy do?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Petemitch123

what did stacy do?

..that's really not something to be discussed here, Pete..

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Petemitch123

what did stacy do?

In a nutshell she took pictures from MTM and saved them on her PC.


But let's keep this thread about Scott which tbh we can talk about all day but the decision will lie with admin and what they see best for the forum.

[Ammi]

..yeah, I am aware that the decision rests with admin but an indefinite ban isn't a definite decision...whatever that may be..it's also something which had a personal effect and bearing on members so it's interesting and relevant..(I think..) to have member's opinions...

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah, I am aware that the decision rests with admin but an indefinite ban isn't a definite decision...whatever that may be..it's also something which had a personal effect and bearing on members so it's interesting and relevant..(I think..) to have member's opinions...

Tbh I don't agree with indefinite bans for this very reason.

Either somebody is banned or not, none of this maybe you might be allowed to come back crap as it just leaves everyone unsure and nobody can really work out if they actually will be allowed back. It's seems like a cowardly ban option.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Tbh I don't agree with indefinite bans for this very reason.

Either somebody is banned or not, none of this maybe you might be allowed to come back crap as it just leaves everyone unsure and nobody can really work out if they actually will be allowed back. It's seems like a cowardly ban option.

..I don't think necessarily 'cowardly'...just something that needed more thought as what was felt was fair and justified...there have been a few 'firsts' this year and thinking about it more isn't a bad thing but 3 months is probably long enough to have made a decision...

[Kazanne]

I never had much to do with Scott , to be honest I found him a bit 'strange' that is why I used to just pass over his posts , I know some members found him hilarious , so for their sakes maybe another chance could be given , lets hope he doesn't abuse it this time.

[Benjamin]

The thing with Scott which a lot of people forget about is that he has already been permabanned from TiBB once and been allowed to return.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

The thing with Scott which a lot of people forget about is that he has already been permabanned from TiBB once and been allowed to return.

i didn't know that. i guess that makes it harder for him to comeback.

[Ammi]

..it really has no bearing, Vanessa because this as about an indefinite ban and the length of a decision being made, which if it did have a bearing..?...it wouldn't change that decision, then, however long it goes on so it's best for everyone and Scott to know...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

The thing with Scott which a lot of people forget about is that he has already been permabanned from TiBB once and been allowed to return.

I didn't know that,he really should have learnt a lesson then.

[Benjamin]

I does have a bearing though. And the use of indefinite does have no set time frame, but it is at admin discretion how long that is, they don't actually have to give a time just because we want one.

[Ammi]

..it doesn't have a bearing though in that a separate decision was already
made about that at the time, (and bearing in mind whatever factors had to be..)... which was that Scott was allowed to come back...

...this separate incident which has happened since his return has been given an indefinite ban, and again there are factors to consider which effect the forum/member's feelings... and I understand as does Scott that time was required to consider them but whether it now be decided as a permanent ban or a ban with a time frame, there isn't much going to change that by prolonging it any more than it has been already, which is one of the longest ban times...

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it doesn't have a bearing though in that a separate decision was already
made about that at the time, (and bearing in mind whatever factors had to be..)... which was that Scott was allowed to come back...

...this separate incident which has happened since his return has been given an indefinite ban, and again there are factors to consider which effect the forum/member's feelings... and I understand as does Scott that time was required to consider them but whether it now be decided as a permanent ban or a ban with a time frame, there isn't much going to change that by prolonging it any more than it has been already, which is one of the longest ban times...

I don't agree with indefinite bans (I have already said that) but if they are going to be used admin/mods are at no liberty to disclose to us how long each one will last. The reason somebody is banned is because they have done something wrong, and an indefinite ban (which is an alternative to a permaban) is used for the more serious/bigger offences so again if somebody is bothered by it they should have thought about it before they did it especially considering they have been permabanned before no matter how it is sugar coated.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I does have a bearing though. And the use of indefinite does have no set time frame, but it is at admin discretion how long that is, they don't actually have to give a time just because we want one.

thank you very much ben, your first one to speak up.
this matter is between scott and admin.
what ever way people want to sugar coat it, scotts ban is not up for dscussion.
this thread and the stacy one should be locked.