[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Zee

I don't think I'm normally bothered by people's sex lives, but the topic of multiple partners in one night does bother me. I think it's a self respect thing; I feel like a person must not care much about themselves if they'll sleep with so many people in one night. To some people, it's just sex, but I just can't understand how a person who does that can do so and think they must have low self esteem.

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Zee

I don't think I'm normally bothered by people's sex lives, but the topic of multiple partners in one night does bother me. I think it's a self respect thing; I feel like a person must not care much about themselves if they'll sleep with so many people in one night. To some people, it's just sex, but I just can't understand how a person who does that can do so and think they must have low self esteem.

I was trying to think of a response and then this appeared...

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

...which kind of sums up my view on this and is something I touched on in a sentence in one of my other posts. I fully accept and understand that sex means different things for different people, I think that's a good thing. But I just don't understand the need for people to judge other people for their attitudes and behaviours towards and regarding sex. If some people think it should be between two people that are in love then that's perfectly cool, but for others it can just be a one off thing after a night out, or in the case of this thread multiple times during the night - I see no problem with that either. It's a personal and private issue that I think people get too worked up about, so long as all parties are consenting, of age and and single, I really think it's just their business and no one else's, there are so many other important things to be bothered about in life.

And I also think that the use of terms like 'slut' and '*****s' in society can be quite damaging, particularly to girls of course but on the whole too - I just think creating a culture where we're so obsessed with what other people do in such a private part of their lives really isn't helping anyone. Why can't we as a society encourage people to apply these strong attitudes to say idk, eradicating inequality or intolerance or something? Things that really matter to society, not how much each of us are using are cocks and ******s.

[Z]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

I think for me it's not about judging people because they're doing something I wouldn't, rather it feels wrong to hear about people doing that because I think it goes against nature to have more than one sexual partner in a night... if that makes sense? I wouldn't judge someone for having sex five times in a night with one person; it's the requiring multiple different partners bit that gets me, that doesn't strike me as empowering, that comes across as a self esteem issue to me. Empowering would be having sex as often as you like with someone who has your sex drive; not using five people to fulfill your sexual appetite. Am I making any sense? I don't know... I don't like to think I'm being judgmental but maybe I am...

[power2thepeople]

The importance of the Media has quite rightly been mentioned and Dappy tried to take the moral high ground by asking how Luisa would would feel if her daughter saw the story in the paper. For a split second I put myself in the daughter's shoes....then I realised the very same situation applies to himself and his children potentially finding out how desperate he was purely for money and a hit single that he laid himself bare for the whole world to see. Now there is dodgy hypocrisy at it's finest....to put it all into perspective, she has been open and honest regarding her attitude to regular sex. He pimped footage of his tackle all over the media in a desperate attempt to get to number one. I'm surprised Luisa didn't retort back with this. He has no personal high ground whatsover to attack her as a parent. Absolute prat!

[Vicky.]

Jet you have no deleted posts in this thread

[Mystic Mock]

While Dappy is my favourite, I can't agree with him on this as it's too hypocritical imo.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

I deleted all posts, do you think i am abusing my powers guys?

[Mystic Mock]

All I can say is if 5 hot girls came after me wanting to have sex I would take it lol. But what's unfair here is if I did do that I wouldn't get any attack for it than if a woman had sex with 5 guys, it's not fair and if it's not socially acceptable for one gender to do that then it has to be the same for the other gender too.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Is it a coincedence that there are 5 supporting dappy?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Poll Update : Tibb is Team Luisa by huge Margin !!!

[Jords]

Luisa is right.

Although Id say if a man or woman you need to sort it out.

[Z]

I haven't voted in the poll because I think the argument that transpired made Luisa look awful and while Dappy didn't come out of it much better than her, he did at least make some good points; and I feel that the poll somehow condones either of their actions... but yeah, Luisa and Jasmine are correct, Dappy is ignorant.

[thesheriff443]

both did them selves no favors with the argument.
men want sex and are happy to get it, if a woman wants it, but these women are someone else's sister or mother, and men don't like to think that its their sister or mother having sex.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

both did them selves no favors with the argument.
men want sex and are happy to get it, if a woman wants it, but these women are someone else's sister or mother, and men don't like to think that its their sister or mother having sex.

your basically saying woman can only have sex if a man allows them to?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by BBUKAUSFAN

your basically saying woman can only have sex if a man allows them to?

of course im not

[Semtex]

I'm with Louisa on that, even though Dobby got an A* in English init.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

Not if she's on the pill and using protection.

Therefor she can have as much sex as fellas.

[wendywillow]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

and if its the man doing it he would be impregging (new word) 5 women and have no way to support all of them.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Not if she's on the pill and using protection.

Therefor she can have as much sex as fellas.

Big IF there,Alot don't,Which is both the man and womans responsibilty,Only the woman is left with the consequences.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Big IF there,Alot don't,Which is both the man and womans responsibilty,Only the woman is left with the consequences.

Was Luisa arguing that she shouldn't use protection then, whilst sleeping with 5 men? Otherwise I'm not sure why it's being brought up.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Was Luisa arguing that she shouldn't use protection then, whilst sleeping with 5 men? Otherwise I'm not sure why it's being brought up.

I did'nt bring up the part about using protection,I just answered it.Also protection is not a 100% fail safe,If it fails a woman is STILL left with a fatherless child.

[Pete.]

Luisa won this hands down - Dappy showed himself up for what he is

[Livia]

I think that Dappy (who I am definitely not a fan of) said, if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night, he's a pig, and if a woman sleeps with 5 men in one night she's a slut. I agree with that.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think that Dappy (who I am definitely not a fan of) said, if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night, he's a pig, and if a woman sleeps with 5 men in one night she's a slut. I agree with that.

He eventually said that, after backtracking considerably.

Initially his opinion was that the man was 'cool' for sleeping with 5 women and a woman doing the same would be a *****.