[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Of course I'm not. If you want to a start thread discussing the faults of others, then by all means do so and I'll probably agree with a lot of what is being said.

But this constant deflection away from the topic under discussion is just that. It's not a question of whether Chris is better or worse than anyone else, just a question about his character.

But we were talking about his character.
I think he is a genuine & nice guy who does not like confrontation so vents his feelings in the "Safer" environment of the Diary Room. That's what it is there for.

[Jake.]

Chris is an actor, and for all we know, he could be the biggest twat outside... But it doesn't matter, because they shouldn't be judged as outside people (I know Chris is probably a really nice bloke but you get my point)

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

But we were talking about his character.
I think he is a genuine & nice guy who does not like confrontation so vents his feelings in the "Safer" environment of the Diary Room. That's what it is there for.

It's also there to put on a performance in front of a camera, knowing full well that you are essentially communicating with the public.

It's "safe" alright. It's safe from other people being able to defend themselves against his catty comments or assassinations of their characters.

What you call "safe" could be perceived as, at best, weak and at worst, something quite manipulative.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Chris is an actor, and for all we know, he could be the biggest twat outside... But it doesn't matter, because they shouldn't be judged as outside people (I know Chris is probably a really nice bloke but you get my point)

Again, they should be judged for who they are, based on all the info we have. Simple as that.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Again, they should be judged for who they are, based on all the info we have. Simple as that.

Disagree, doesn't bother me in the slightest what they do on the outside

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

It's also there to put on a performance in front of a camera, knowing full well that you are essentially communicating with the public.

It's "safe" alright. It's safe from other people being able to defend themselves against his catty comments or assassinations of their characters.

What you call "safe" could be perceived as, at best, weak and at worst, something quite manipulative.

So you don't like him. I get it. Don't vote for him then.
I don't like Steven. I think he is a total twat who loves himself & is clearly lying about how much money he has. So it's safe to say I don't want him to win.
Chris is the only housemate I feel is speaking what I'm thinking.
I don't think any less of him for saying it in the diary room and not to the other HM's.
This years group has been the nastiest bunch of people I have ever seen on this show. He is just being sensible by keeping his mouth shut.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Disagree, doesn't bother me in the slightest what they do on the outside

So tell me then your reaction Nasty Nick making up that he had a wife who died in a car accident to make himself a more sympathetic character to this fellow housemates.

Does it not bother you what the actual truth is?

[Beastie]

I like Chris. I find him interesting. Would be nice if he ends up winning.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

So you don't like him. I get it. Don't vote for him then.
I don't like Steven. I think he is a total twat who loves himself & is clearly lying about how much money he has. So it's safe to say I don't want him to win.
Chris is the only housemate I feel is speaking what I'm thinking.
I don't think any less of him for saying it in the diary room and not to the other HM's.
This years group has been the nastiest bunch of people I have ever seen on this show. He is just being sensible by keeping his mouth shut.

Apart from in the diary room where he's all mouth before he goes back to being friendly with the "nastiest bunch of people" ever seen on this show.

I guarantee no woman would get away with it.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Apart from in the diary room where he's all mouth before he goes back to being friendly with the "nastiest bunch of people" ever seen on this show.

I guarantee no woman would get away with it.

Nothing wrong with being polite.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

So tell me then your reaction Nasty Nick making up that he had a wife who died in a car accident to make himself a more sympathetic character to this fellow housemates.

Does it not bother you what the actual truth is?

I was only 5 in 2000 so I didn't watch/can't really comment. But no, the truth doesn't bother me whatsoever, because it's a game show and they are playing to win. These aren't my friends, I don't know them and I'll never see them once the show is over,

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I was only 5 in 2000 so I didn't watch/can't really comment. But no, the truth doesn't bother me whatsoever, because it's a game show and they are playing to win. These aren't my friends, I don't know them and I'll never see them once the show is over,

Why are you even bothering to defend Chris then?

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Nothing wrong with being polite.

So he's polite, but others are two faced...

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

So he's polite, but others are two faced...

Yep

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Why are you even bothering to defend Chris then?

Because I've watched Chris and don't think he's a bad person in the slightest

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Yep

Unattractive, sofly spoken white man = Polite

Attractive woman = Two faced.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Because I've watched Chris and don't think he's a bad person in the slightest

He's disingenuous.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He's disingenuous.

Of course he is

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Unattractive, sofly spoken white man = Polite

Attractive woman = Two faced.

Nope, Ash is just as two-faced as the rest of them.
If you hate Chris so much then don't watch him.

[Livia]

I like Chris. He doesn't let every half-baked thought that pops into his head, spill out of his mouth with no filter of tact. I suppose that might make some people think he isn't completely open. There are plenty of people in there who think that 'being upfront' means voicing every single thought, no matter how hurtful or ridiculous it is. Chris, for me, is the one relatively normal person in there.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Nope, Ash is just as two-faced as the rest of them.

I think he is one of the more genuine people in the house actually. Just a bit of a bore and immature.

If you hate Chris so much then don't watch him.

I don't hate him that much. I just think people should be more wary of him, before they vote for the smugster to win.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Livia

I like Chris. He doesn't let every half-baked thought that pops into his head, spill out of his mouth with no filter of tact.

Yes, he saves it for his latest diary room performance where he and the viewers watching him get to feel morally superior to everyone else.

[Tarryn]

[QUOTE=Yaki da;7071979]I think he is one of the more genuine people in the house actually. Just a bit of a bore and immature.



Yeah, calling another housemate a maggot & taking the piss out of their weight.........................What a genuine guy (!).

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Yes, he saves it for his latest diary room performance where he and the viewers watching him get to feel morally superior to everyone else.

He's entitled to do that. BB asks him questions, he answers. I doubt he imagines that everything is says is broadcast. Other housemates do the same. You can't possibly know he feels morally superior unless you have access to this thoughts, that's just your own perception based on the fact that you don't like him.

[mrflibble]

Originally Posted by Livia

I like Chris. He doesn't let every half-baked thought that pops into his head, spill out of his mouth with no filter of tact. I suppose that might make some people think he isn't completely open. There are plenty of people in there who think that 'being upfront' means voicing every single thought, no matter how hurtful or ridiculous it is. Chris, for me, is the one relatively normal person in there.