[tanussa]

I have enjoyed reading this thread, nice to feel the beginnings of a turn around - helen or ash to win

[Robodog]

Helen had some rows with Jale, Matthew, Danielle but not with Ashleigh.

Ashleigh was the one who started on Helen - not the other way round.

But as for who created the divide?

Big Brother of course !

With tasks like 'the gossip app' and 'the morgue'. It was BB who 'created' the divide.

And tonight's task just reinforced it.

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Helen had some rows with Jale, Matthew, Danielle but not with Ashleigh.

Ashleigh was the one who started on Helen - not the other way round.

But as for who created the divide?

Big Brother of course !

With tasks like 'the gossip app' and 'the morgue'. It was BB who 'created' the divide.

And tonight's task just reinforced it.

you do have a point, they do instigate trouble, have done it more series than any before

[tanussa]

shes not really a judge so she can let her biased opinion rule, she'd already made her mind up who was guilty, if u watch bbbots she tries to. be impartial, but its obvious she likes ashleigh

[Jack_]

Even if she has created the divide (which I don't believe, Helen's dominance has created it) then that's a good thing? I'm not sure why that task and this forum and BOTS etc are debating it like it's a negative. Divides are a good thing, they make the show more interesting. Hence why I thank Helen for it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Even if she has created the divide (which I don't believe, Helen's dominance has created it) then that's a good thing? I'm not sure why that task and this forum and BOTS etc are debating it like it's a negative. Divides are a good thing, they make the show more interesting. Hence why I thank Helen for it

My problem with it was the need to pile all the blame onto one housemate, when the truth of it was it wasn't even just Helen and Ashleigh who contributed to it but almost everyone.

It's what happens in Big Brother and yet the task made out it was either Ashleigh or Helen who brought this never before seen phenomena into Big Brother.

Who'd have thought it? You put 16 strangers in a house together, some of which won't get on and therefore won't stay around each other.

[Kizzy]

Stupid old crone judy!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Stupid old crone judy!

Drag that weave!

[JCrow]

Helen and her brood often say that Ashleigh and her friends always go sit in a corner and slag people off behind their backs. Hmm...doesn't EVERY single HM do that at some point? Helen is the most guilty of this too. Mostly because everyone but her brood leaves when she comes or Helen waits until they leave to begin her bashing. Its a constant too. If you don't believe it watch the season over again. Its a stupid point to use in an argument because everyone is guilty. Helen is just the worst because she is often cruel with her comments both face to face and behind their backs. Also Helen is NOT honest and real as so many like to say, both on the show and on forums. She is a grade A b***c. I looked up 'Honest' in the dictionary for those who like to associate that word with Helen. HONEST: 1-Honorable in principles, intentions, and actions; upright and fair. 2-Respectable; having a good reputation. I've seen none of this in Helen. Please don't tell me it because she got a bad edit. We've seen hours and hours of her and its not there that I saw. Also don't point out the fake crap she doled out to try and win some kind of favor. when you hug someone and couple that with an eye-roll or a bitch fest it doesn't count. I actually thought Ash and Pav were going to help Helen out by being honest with her after the Judgment. Pav sort of, kind of went there but fell a bit short. She needs friends and family to be honest with her. Tough love.