[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I see where you're coming from tbh, but was it wise for him to drink when he had an alcohol addiction?

I find it hard to properly judge though because BB wouldn't show us any footage of what was going on in the Toilet.

[Novo]

Chloe seems like the sort of person who likes to make the most of situtions and play on it like she did with Ken's comment a few minutes are the Jeremy incident happened, BB could have gone a bit easier on them due to him being in that state it really is no different to what Denise did to one of the Twins which was actually on Camera, she exposed someone knowingly (same as Hazel with Daley) where as Jeremy might not have known she was naked, seems really harsh to me but at the same time i suppose it sends out the right message

hopefully she doesnt milk it and make more of it though, the guy made a foolish mistake and he has paid for it

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I find it hard to properly judge though because BB wouldn't show us any footage of what was going on in the Toilet.

If i remember correctly he told alexandar about his alchoul addiction.

[Mystic Mock]

Why do people keep mentioning about Chloe milking it? It's ironic after what Jeremy tried to do and it's making me laugh.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

If i remember correctly he told alexandar about his alchoul addiction.

Oh I know, I just feel that Chloe was able to make the most out of it there because Jeremy was drunk, and BB wouldn't show the footage in the Toilet although we've seen everything from Cami all in one highlight show.

Btw this is not me wanting to perv, but just actually wanting to properly assess the situation.

[Ammi]

...I think that they were completely right to remove him..Chloe had the right to react in the way she did but he did not have the right to pull back her robe...there is a world of difference between her making a decision to show her body in modelling/for her job because that's something she feels comfortable doing but what he did left her feeling completely vulnerable...he was drunk is no excuse at all..interesting though that females are often condemned if they consume alcohol to a level that they put themselves in a vulnerable position..so are often partly blamed if that vulnerability is abused by someone...and now with this, he's consumed alcohol to a level that he thinks it's ok to pull back her robe and expose her body..but he can't be completely blamed because he was drunk...anyway, by his own admission he has serious emotional issues and has very little rational judgements atm so should not be in the house at all..either for his own wellbeing and safety or anyone else who is around him...

[854]

I don't think he should have done it, but for him to get ejected over it was too much. They just pick and choose who gets reprimanded as of late and it's one of the reasons I quit watching bb. The same rules should apply to everyone male or female.

Like how in the **** was Ken not ejected as well for his comments.

[BeloTheBelt]

Right decision to eject him. In this day and age you cant do what he did.
Might have got away with it (been laughed off) in the 1970s but not now.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Same tbh

I voted no, but I do feel we weren't shown the full story (I dont mean the incident itself, but I think Chloe may have threatened to leave if he wasnt kicked out)

IMO he made a serious error in judgement. IF its true what he said about her having no end of 'wardrobe malfunctions' when alone with him in there then it does kinda muddy the waters a little. Not saying its ok to grope her, but thats not what he did. Sounds more like he made a drunken pass at her after reading the signals very wrong. I don't think it was malicious at all, however I see why Chloe was upset.

But at the same time...I feel she massively overreacted, possibly due to everyone else flapping around her. But she didn't overreact half as much as much as BB did. And Perez. My god I was starting to like him too but what a ****ing banshee he is

I agree with this.. I'm not saying what he did was ok but the fact he was drunk has to be taken into account. I'm sure we've all been groped in a pub or club by some guy that would never normally do it sober. I personally would have told him to **** off and that would have been the end of it..

I was much more shocked by Ken tbh..

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I agree with this.. I'm not saying what he did was ok but the fact he was drunk has to be taken into account. I'm sure we've all been groped in a pub or club by some guy that would never normally do it sober. I personally would have told him to **** off and that would have been the end of it..

I was much more shocked by Ken tbh..

This ^ Ken was far worse imo.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I agree with this.. I'm not saying what he did was ok but the fact he was drunk has to be taken into account. I'm sure we've all been groped in a pub or club by some guy that would never normally do it sober. I personally would have told him to **** off and that would have been the end of it..

I was much more shocked by Ken tbh..

[Firewire]

Yes, but Ken should have been ejected too.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BeloTheBelt

Right decision to eject him. In this day and age you cant do what he did.
Might have got away with it (been laughed off) in the 1970s but not now.

It was a drunken fumble, I like to think (mistakenly in some cases it seems) that women have a much stronger mindset when it comes to incidents like this and can deal with it competently in this day and age!, it's not like he had her at knife point or was holding the key to her chastity belt.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm female I would have laughed that off

I agree,I would have thought the business she is in she would have known how to handle it better,can you imagine if it was Michelle or cami ......a quick kick in the you know what would have sort him out....
Can't help wondering if she will get the sympathy vote!!!!

[Philanthropite]

I also believe he shouldn't have been evicted.

Chloe is completely right in that even despite doing page 3 - if she didn't want to be touched/partially disrobed then none had the right to (of course).

However my problem is that as some of the other girls are responding in the thread - they would have laughed it off. Especially considering the situation where he was blatantly not in the right frame of mind being drunk enough to vomit.

In short her reaction was like she'd been raped, and let's look at it logically, she's done page 3 and she's not foreign to showing her bits off so if any type of girl would laugh it off, SHE SHOULD HAVE.

Then again I do hate the double standard as it is, a woman brushes/grabs a guys pecks/rubs his stomach towards his crotch area and nobody bats an eyelash. Disrobed for literally seconds? Obvious rape victim... and it's the type of female mentality that goes on about this eye-rape bollocks. Utter lunacy.

With that said, what he did was still wrong, everyone mutually agrees on that, but she was in his space to begin with and he was blatantly pissed out of his head.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Philanthropite

I also believe he shouldn't have been evicted.

Chloe is completely right in that even despite doing page 3 - if she didn't want to be touched/partially disrobed then none had the right to (of course).

However my problem is that as some of the other girls are responding in the thread - they would have laughed it off. Especially considering the situation where he was blatantly not in the right frame of mind being drunk enough to vomit.

In short her reaction was like she'd been raped, and let's look at it logically, she's done page 3 and she's not foreign to showing her bits off so if any type of girl would laugh it off, SHE SHOULD HAVE.

Then again I do hate the double standard as it is, a woman brushes/grabs a guys pecks/rubs his stomach towards his crotch area and nobody bats an eyelash. Disrobed for literally seconds? Obvious rape victim... and it's the type of female mentality that goes on about this eye-rape bollocks, utter lunacy.

With that said, what he did was still wrong, everyone mutually agrees on that, but she was in his space to begin with and he was blatantly pissed out of his head.

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[Philanthropite]

Originally Posted by Cherie

.

I'm not contradicting myself, he shouldn't have been evicted, but what he did was wrong, in the same way that plenty of housemates have done WRONG things and haven't been evicted for them.

The level of it's severity wasn't evict worthy. Not in the slightest.

If you was agreeing with me though my apologies.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Philanthropite

I'm not contradicting myself, he shouldn't have been evicted, but what he did was wrong, in the same way that plenty of housemates have done WRONG things and haven't been evicted for them.

The level of it's severity wasn't evict worthy. Not in the slightest.

If you was agreeing with me though my apologies.

I'm agreeing with you and highlighted the points I agree with!

[Philanthropite]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I'm agreeing with you and highlighted the points I agree with!

Sorry, my mistake, I don't use the forums much

[Jemal]

Chloe went into a room with only a robe on and nothing underneath with a drunken man who just came off a divorce and is obviously vunerable. I like chloe but she overreacted so much it became so cringe. I'm not saying what jeremy done is okay of course? It wasn't.
But i mean he should not of been ejected for it, at all when far worseeee has been done in the CBB house.

Also theres a lot of people on here who just automatically think the popular opinion (he should of got ejected) is right. There scared to think any other than that due to the backclash they will get. Use your own brain and think this through, there is no way this ejection is justisfied. I dont care what anyone says

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I think that they were completely right to remove him..Chloe had the right to react in the way she did but he did not have the right to pull back her robe...there is a world of difference between her making a decision to show her body in modelling/for her job because that's something she feels comfortable doing but what he did left her feeling completely vulnerable...he was drunk is no excuse at all..interesting though that females are often condemned if they consume alcohol to a level that they put themselves in a vulnerable position..so are often partly blamed if that vulnerability is abused by someone...and now with this, he's consumed alcohol to a level that he thinks it's ok to pull back her robe and expose her body..but he can't be completely blamed because he was drunk...anyway, by his own admission he has serious emotional issues and has very little rational judgements atm so should not be in the house at all..either for his own wellbeing and safety or anyone else who is around him...

So what if it was in a club? Someone got the wrong end of the stick would you call the police

[Suze]

I don't know if he should have been ejected or not, as not sure we are getting the whole picture on this. But it is annoying that things in past BBs and CBBs are let go/BB looks the other way, which seem worse if possible and some are acted on. If you punish one for certain behaviour in that way, then imo punish all for certain behaviour, not pick and choose because of who the housemate is.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Chloe went into a room with only a robe on and nothing underneath with a drunken man who just came off a divorce and is obviously vunerable. I like chloe but she overreacted so much it became so cringe. I'm not saying what jeremy done is okay of course? It wasn't.
But i mean he should not of been ejected for it, at all when far worseeee has been done in the CBB house.

Also theres a lot of people on here who just automatically think the popular opinion (he should of got ejected) is right. There scared to think any other than that due to the backclash they will get. Use your own brain and think this through, there is no way this ejection is justisfied. I dont care what anyone says

Jesus!!!!! Chloe and some of the other girls went into the toilet to see if Jeremy was ok and try and help him any way they could. You CLEARLY don't like Chloe if you are making it out that she went in with just a robe on wanting something from him. The other girls were in there for most of the time and when they left Chloe told them to keep the door open and asked Jeremy was he ok? The door closed then Jeremy did what he did and she was clearly heard telling him it was NOT OK.

In her line of work I am sure Chloe has come across many men who think is is 'easy' and game for anything. While Jeremy didn't seem to think this he crossed the line when he tried to open her robe. Now women would have different reactions to this happening, A Just telling him it was not ok and walking out B Slapping him or something similar or C Telling him it was not ok and letting their feelings take over and being hurt and tearful. NOBODY can say that this girl was MILKING it or looking for attention but then in so so many cases the woman is always either blamed or its said she LED the perpretator on.

Chloe is a human being and her feelings and reactions are her own. She made it clear in the diary room that even though she is a page 3 model that is her CHOICE. What happened in the toilet was NOT. Please give the girl a break !!!!!!!!!! By the way it was unfortunate that Jeremy was so drunk and so high as he was quite a good housemate but he was a ticking time bomb and it was poor poor judgement of BB to put him in there in the first place seeing that his divorce is so recent and all the struggles he has faced

[Kizzy]

I think he misread the signals being half cut or whatever he was, what denise welsh did was as bad and she won...

[G1dds]

I think he was unfairly ejected

Chloe ridiculously over reacted. Seriously it should have been slightly awkward, I would have been slightly embarrassed but would have brushed it off after telling him off. Done and dusted

But then I wouldn't be walking around a house naked underneath a dressing gown, with a bunch of strangers. I don't even open my front door or go in the garden naked except for a dressing gown. I don't walk about in the smallest of bikinis either and I certainly wouldn't be holding his hair back whilst he puked with a piece of clothing that drapes open so easily

So yes, a massive over reaction to him just moving her dressing gown slightly, and most sensible thinking people would have just brushed it off

Slightly different to him holding her up against the wall or pinning her down groping her

And Perez's reaction was even worse - moron