[Pincho Paxton]

Perez is a bigger dick so he is more man than most people.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Perez is a bigger dick so he is more man than most people.

lol You have a point

[Jose Mourinho]

This is like playing with my dog.

[Jose Mourinho]

*Throws bone*

LMAO

[Robodog]

Well i'm mixed race and i've got no problem in describing my 'negro' genetics as such, same goes for my family. Same as i have no problem in describing my 'caucasian' genetics in the exact same terms.

But what word would you have us use in place of 'negro' then? Not that it matters, i'm just curious as to what your choice of acceptable language is.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Well i'm mixed race and i've got no problem in describing my 'negro' genetics as such, same goes for my family. Same as i have no problem in describing my 'caucasian' genetics in the exact same terms.

But what word would you have us use in place of 'negro' then? Not that it matters, i'm just curious as to what your choice of acceptable language is.

You cannot compare caucasian and Negro.. Black is the acceptable term nowadays.. Whereas back in the day it was vice versa.. Times change, we just have to respect and accept that certain words are and can become taboo.

If I know a simple word can offend someone, I will refrain from using it. That is not really a big ask is it?

Read this : http://time.com/3561227/u-s-army-pla...of-word-negro/

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

You cannot compare caucasian and Negro.. Black is the acceptable term nowadays.. Whereas back in the day it was vice versa.. Times change, we just have to respect and accept that certain words are and can become taboo.

If I know a simple word can offend someone, I will refrain from using it. That is not really a big ask is it?

Read this : http://time.com/3561227/u-s-army-pla...of-word-negro/

I totally can compare caucasian and negro as equal terms for racial type, especially when i have both genetic types in my own body. Times change of course but we are not puppets - we are the creators of our own reality. We do not have to blindly accept whatever the media tells us is the 'in' or 'out' words of the day. Especially when the media is fickle and changes its mind according to whim or fashion.

If we just follow the herd every time without question then we are giving our personal power away, carte blanche, which is a dangerous place to be. These debates are not just healthy - they are essential to our freedom.

Offence is not in the words alone - it is in the intention behind them. I'd rather have someone call me a 'negro' in jest, than have someone call me an 'disgusting pig' and mean it.

But in the BB house for example, you cannot say 'negro' in jest but you can scream 'disgusting pig' in someone's face and mean it. That, to me, is all wrong.

Too often we are getting caught up on the words and totally missing the intention behind them: which is where the real deal is.

I'm getting tired bro so i'm hitting the hay. Been good talking to you. Peace out.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Robodog

I totally can compare caucasian and negro as equal terms for racial type, especially when i have both genetic types in my own body. Times change of course but we are not puppets - we are the creators of our own reality. We do not have to blindly accept whatever the media tells us is the 'in' or 'out' words of the day. Especially when the media is fickle and changes its mind according to whim or fashion.

If we just follow the herd every time without question then we are giving our personal power away, carte blanche, which is a dangerous place to be. These debates are not just healthy - they are essential to our freedom.

Offence is not in the words alone - it is in the intention behind them. I'd rather have someone call me a 'negro' in jest, than have someone call me an 'disgusting pig' and mean it.

But in the BB house for example, you cannot say 'negro' in jest but you can scream 'disgusting pig' in someone's face and mean it. That, to me, is all wrong.

Too often we are getting caught up on the words and totally missing the intention behind them: which is where the real deal is.

I'm getting tired bro so i'm hitting the hay. Been good talking to you. Peace out.

I'm all FOR not bowing down to media pressure but I know when to draw the line.

The media did not change the way we perceive that word. Society did. Over the course of a VERY long time. And for me? So be it. I can understand when I think about everything why some people can find the use of it in this day and age to be offensive, I can totally understand. It really is no big deal.

The fact is that word is now deemed unacceptable. If it was still acceptable it would still be a term used on the U.S census or we would hear it used commonly, we don't hear it used commonly and you and I know the reason why.


That word is unlike any other so when you say you can compare Caucasian to Negro you really cannot.. The words have totally EVOLVED in different ways.

One man may create a simple alphabetic word composed of simple letters in a dictionary one day but on another day THAT WORD may hold a totally different meaning due to a plethora of factors. Life EXPERIENCES and ACTIONS bear more weight and meaning than any alphabetic or spoken word could ever have and THAT can change many things in life and rightly so.

I only jumped when I saw the way Ken used it first time.. It was downright rude and just uncalled for. He also used "Pickaninny" which both caused offence to Alexander, he took offence quite clearly.

Noone uses that word anymore. Noone. Because people find it offensive. It is not the media who find it offensive. Black people do and if they do so what? There is a lot of history there so let's leave it to people like Obama and Alexander who have way more experience than us to decide if it is acceptable or not.

Been cool talking to you to bro PEACE.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Noone uses that word anymore. Noone. Because people find it offensive. It is not the media who find it offensive. Black people do and if they do so what? There is a lot of history there so let's leave it to people like Obama and Alexander who have way more experience than us to decide if it is acceptable or not.

Been cool talking to you to bro PEACE.

Yeah you are right, some black people do find the word offensive: and some do not. You keep saying noone uses the word anymore but they do. It has been a perfectly acceptable term globally for generations, including during OUR generation (see the link below). I don't know why you have such trouble accepting that. It's not a slang term like 'n----r' or it would NEVER have been used on census forms, in sporting leagues or by Martin Luther King himself in his most famous 'I have a dream' speech. To remind you, here is evidence of examples of it's recent, mainstream acceptable use : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

And yeah it has been taken off the census NOW which is a sign of how the word has evolved - but that has only occurred VERY RECENTLY. Undeniable truth is that it was perfectly acceptable in Obama's 2010 census - which is ONLY a few years ago. If it really was as bad as you make out, for as long as you make out, then it simply would not have been on that 2010 census in the first place!

Do you honestly think either Obama's administration or the previous one (which included Condoleeza Rice) would knowingly put a racist term on the ethnic background section of their census form?! Of course not!

The word has evolved SINCE THEN. That's fair enough, things change. But that's a VERY fast turnaround from being acceptable in 2010 to unacceptable by 2015, so it's no wonder people are confused by it!

[DemolitionRed]

ED to say...oops, this has already been said.

[Jose Mourinho]

People are just thinking of it as a word.. sure Caucasian would be the equivalent but they both have VERY different symbolic meanings.

[Merry Mockmas]

Ken meant it in a racial way, he loved getting reactions out of people and he was hoping that one of Alexander or Keith would blow up at him about it.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Ken meant it in a racial way, he loved getting reactions out of people and he was hoping that one of Alexander or Keith would blow up at him about it.

I 100% agree with you. No, he may not be racist but he certainly did what he did to get attention. It was just so disrespectful the fact that he was actually willing to risk causing controversy by his nonchalant use of racially unacceptable words.

[the truth]

ken was on a wind up with everyone from the start. the show is a joke the contestants are a joke the sexist double standards are a joke....nadia basket case wanted to call the cops because ken liked womens arses (though clearly hers wasn't his type lol) he did try to rile but racist no chance

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by the truth

ken was on a wind up with everyone from the start. the show is a joke the contestants are a joke the sexist double standards are a joke....nadia basket case wanted to call the cops because ken liked womens arses (though clearly hers wasn't his type lol) he did try to rile but racist no chance

Wait aren't you someone who champions Nigel Farage and UKIP and your trying to come here and have a clean and openly honest debate about racial subjects? LOL

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Wait aren't you someone who champions Nigel Farage and UKIP and your trying to come here and have a clean and openly honest debate about racial subjects? LOL

I don't champion them but I do champion the fact the European union and the 587 page constitution is a disaster and that we do need tighter control of our borders. I presume you think that makes me racist???

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by the truth

I don't champion them but I do champion the fact the European union and the 587 page constitution is a disaster and that we do need tighter control of our borders. I presume you think that makes me racist???

Oh really now? Im sure I have seen you in another post extolling the virtues of Mr Farage.. oh wait..

For anyone reading this thread.. this is just how truthul "thetruth" is:


http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...=269130&page=2


So...You tell the truth do you? There you are telling me you DONT support him but there you are in another thread applauding his "great work" LMAO


That's the truth.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Oh really now? Im sure I have seen you in another post extolling the virtues of Mr Farage.. oh wait..

For anyone reading this thread.. this is just how truthul "thetruth" is:


http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...=269130&page=2


So...You tell the truth do you? There you are telling me you DONT support him but there you are in another thread applauding his "great work" LMAO


That's the truth.

h dear

[Christmas Dynasnow]

oi Jose how are you going to deal with the fact that Alex O'Neal is a racist too?

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

oi Jose how are you going to deal with the fact that Alex O'Neal is a racist too?

TBH he is worst than Ken if what he said was true.

[vouch4]

Not about who said what and in what context it was actually meant (objective) and more about who witnessed the dialogue and judged that it could be taken offence at by certain others if it was meant with a negative intention (subjective) No trying to be clever here but surely if we explorw this we find that there is a real chance that the original party 'could' have said something in a totally Innocent context whereas the judgemental witness is never able to claim a similar reason as by definition they are guilty 'every' time.
In Ken Morleys days they were known as ****-stirrers. In reality His offence is likely to be one of not being able to keeo up with the pace of p. c or the many contradictions around the policing of it, that makes him stupid for straying into areas of conversation he aint 100% about, not necessarily racially hostile? .

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by vouch4

Not about who said what and in what context it was actually meant (objective) and more about who witnessed the dialogue and judged that it could be taken offence at by certain others if it was meant with a negative intention (subjective) No trying to be clever here but surely if we explorw this we find that there is a real chance that the original party 'could' have said something in a totally Innocent context whereas the judgemental witness is never able to claim a similar reason as by definition they are guilty 'every' time.
In Ken Morleys days they were known as ****-stirrers. In reality His offence is likely to be one of not being able to keeo up with the pace of p. c or the many contradictions around the policing of it, that makes him stupid for straying into areas of conversation he aint 100% about, not necessarily racially hostile? .

As much as I dislike Alexander.... YOU must think of the FIRST time ken used the words Negro and Pickaninny..With THAT accent, which he put on to obviously cause some kind of provocation. (HE is not Alexander's friend, so don't even class it in that sense) My problem is how he was so nonchalant about doing that, to someone he barely knows. You may say he is not racist, but I will say he was extremely disrespectful to every black person by doing that. And he should have been removed then.

[vouch4]

For example.. I am all for never being permitted to use the so-called N words but would understand such severe sanctions if the word NAZI was reveered in the same way, or are our silent witnesses whoever they are applying some distinguishing abhorrent scale or other.
Personally happy to never hear the above slip past another humans lips but somebody needs to inform the rap industry who have just laced a chart record pumping out of my daughters bedroom containing the unmistakable word N i g g ** no less than 32 times in 4 minutes - ????? Let's get rid altogether or revert back to chastising those who misuse and abuse existing words, palatable or not, as a means of hurting their fellow humans.

[puzzled]

Alexander is American, and in the States, the N word is n***er. MLK used the word, "negro," and the United Negro College Fund is alive and well. However, "negro" is outdated and not used except by people who are racist or clueless. I guess we all have to decide for ourselves which Ken is.