[Vicky.]

Yup. He definitely went too far.

Also he appears to have a problem with alcohol, which contributed a lot. Not that thats an excuse but still...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course not.

When was having a laugh a crime? Especially when Joel was pretending to find it funny?

Would you find it funny if a man who had been persuing you for days despite being told you weren't gay, who you had refused to kiss just hours earlier in a game of truth or dare as you were uncomfortable... then decided to start thrusting at you naked and bending you over? Really...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Of course not.

When was having a laugh a crime? Especially when Joel was pretending to find it funny?

Are you familiar with nervous laughter?, do you honestly think Joel looked comfortable?

[Tom4784]

He went too far, it was the right decision to boot him out.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Would you find it funny if a man who had been persuing you for days despite being told you weren't gay, who you had refused to kiss just hours earlier in a game of truth or dare as you were uncomfortable... then decided to start thrusting at you naked and bending you over? Really...

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

Are you actually having a ****ing laugh? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've heard all night.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

Sorry Mock but that's ludicrous

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are you actually having a ****ing laugh? That's possibly the most ridiculous thing I've heard all night.

No the most ridiculous comments tonight are the people that want rigid BB's.

[Shaun]

He wasn't in any position to let anyone down lmao it's hardly his fault if the other mess can't control himself.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No the most ridiculous comments tonight are the people that want rigid BB's.

People are ridiculous for wanting BB to punish people who sexually assault people? Okay then

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Sorry Mock but that's ludicrous

How?

I normally like Joel, but that was appalling tonight from him.

Who remembers the Ch4 days when we had Michelle Bass, Craig Coates, Lea BB7, Richard BB7, Mario BB11, they would all be thrown out in these BB's because they dared to not discuss showmances or how they're growing as people like it's an episode of EastEnders.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

People are ridiculous for wanting BB to punish people who sexually assault people? Okay then

And when people call that sexual assault is probably the reason why Ch5 have turned BB into EastEnders.

[Amy Jade]

No.

Although I do see why they did, Joel played along and egged him on in my opinion and then changed tac in the diary room. I'm aware he looked uncomfortable and asked Aaron to stop but he then threw pillows and stuff play fighting.

[Liam-]

Mock sorry, but you're wrong, you need to learn the difference between casual nakedness and sexual harassment/assault, those people didn't do anything near what Aaron did.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

See I feel the total opposite

He has laughed off Aarons behaviour in the past which tbh tells me he IS quite secure about being straight. There is a point, where it crosses the line, and tonight Aaron did. I don't find it fair at all to blame Joel :S

[rionablue]

Yes. Joel asked him to stop and tried to get away from him. Even when he went into the bathroom Aaron jumped into his bed.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Mock sorry, but you're wrong, you need to learn the difference between casual nakedness and sexual harassment/assault, those people didn't do anything near what Aaron did.

Trust me I'm not wrong.

Aaron's behaviour wasn't much different to Dappy, Luisa, or Perez in their sexual outbursts.

[BENDERBOY]

Totally justified, if a guy had done that to a girl he'd have been out on the spot.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I actually would've had a sense of humour and probably flirted back for a laugh.

Joel in his own insecurity of his own sexuality let himself down tonight in my eyes.

Mock, you need to understand that people are comfortable with different levels of hyper sexuality. You might personally be fine with a friend thrusting a naked body towards you but surely you can understand that many people will not feel the same.
Joel didn't let himself down and if you or anybody else were ever put in a situation where a person oversteps a line, then that person deserves some sort of punishment.
For instance, flashing a stripper in a strip club would probably only get you kicked out the bar, doing the same thing to a nun in a church would give you jail time.
It is not about the act, it is about the perception. And not the perception of the onlookers, the perception of the victim.
Aaron was rightly removed from the house in this instance.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BENDERBOY

Totally justified, if a guy had done that to a girl he'd have been out on the spot.

Well I can't argue for other people, but I defended Jeremy in the last CBB when he touched Chloe's robe, and the last time I checked Chloe was a girl, a very ****able one while at it.

Oops! BB have just stopped me from being one of the 4 Housemates coming in tomorrow night due to my posts about another female.

[Black Dagger]

Youre embarrassing yourself luv.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Withano

Mock, you need to understand that people are comfortable with different levels of hyper sexuality. You might personally be fine with a friend thrusting a naked body towards you but surely you can understand that many people will not feel the same.
Joel didn't let himself down and if you or anybody else were ever put in a situation where a person oversteps a line, then that person deserves some sort of punishment.
For instance, flashing a stripper in a strip club would probably only get you kicked out the bar, doing the same thing to a nun in a church would give you jail time.
It is not about the act, it is about the perception. And not the perception of the onlookers, the perception of the victim.
Aaron was rightly removed from the house in this instance.

I get what you're saying, but that's why I would've given Aaron a warning, maybe even a first and final warning if BB felt that it was really bad.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get what you're saying, but that's why I would've given Aaron a warning, maybe even a first and final warning if BB felt that it was really bad.

Joel made it evidentially clear that he was uncomfortable with Aaron's hyper sexuality before, during and after the incedent. To me this justifies the ejection, I think many people would consider a first and final warning as too lenient

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Trust me I'm not wrong.

Aaron's behaviour wasn't much different to Dappy, Luisa, or Perez in their sexual outbursts.

No you're wrong, end of story really, your opinion on this matter is vile and actually rather worrying.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well I can't argue for other people, but I defended Jeremy in the last CBB when he touched Chloe's robe, and the last time I checked Chloe was a girl, a very ****able one while at it.

...I don't think that's helping much...