[Cherie]

What this forum lacks at times is a sense of humour

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

What this forum lacks at times is a sense of humour

lets all join hands and sing Jesus wants me for a sunbeam

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

lets all join hands and sing Jesus wants me for a sunbeam

OK - So why is there only me singing?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

What this forum lacks at times is a sense of humour

So true Cherie, and what humour we start out with becomes drained after a time.

[Mystic Mock]

He looks so miserable too.

[user104658]

Sooo... Next time the unambiguous racism question comes up on a thread here, are people still going to deny it with a straight face?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Sooo... Next time the unambiguous racism question comes up on a thread here, are people still going to deny it with a straight face?

Being against a Religion isn't racist, in this case what you're referring to is Islamophobia which is a Religious intolerance towards Islam and the Muslim followers which can consist of White, Black, and Asian people, especially of the latter two.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Father Mockmas

Being against a Religion isn't racist, in this case what you're referring to is Islamophobia which is a Religious intolerance towards Islam and the Muslim followers which can consist of White, Black, and Asian people, especially of the latter two.

Oh that's OK then. Its that fluffy, friendly, more focussed brand of bigotry.

I disagree anyway; if the man in the picture was white and cleanshaven, even if he had a massive sign above his head saying "I am a Muslim", people would not be having the same reaction to this "hilarious" photograph. Therefore, let's call it what it is: not islamophobia, but negative, destructive stereotyping based on casual racism.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Oh that's OK then. Its that fluffy, friendly, more focussed brand of bigotry.

I disagree anyway; if the man in the picture was white and cleanshaven, even if he had a massive sign above his head saying "I am a Muslim", people would not be having the same reaction to this "hilarious" photograph. Therefore, let's call it what it is: not islamophobia, but negative, destructive stereotyping based on casual racism.

I would laugh at anyone that looked at the camera like they're about to be sentenced to meet Tony Blair and George W Bush, but hey that's just me I suppose.

And no it's never okay to be prejudiced, but having a joke about someone looking like a stereotype isn't really prejudiced, otherwise Seth MacFarlane would be prejudiced then and I don't think that his got a prejudiced bone in his body as he takes the piss out of prejudiced people in his shows.

My main stance on this is that if his not gonna let the security see his luggage then he is a potential danger to the people on board so therefore can't go on, and of course it's not right, but it's only Human to feel paranoia about someone that's not showing his luggage to the security when his from a Religion that's got the biggest Terrorist Organisations around at the minute.

However I also don't agree with Muslims being singled out negatively for following Islam, imo every Religion needs to stop being so radical so that we can get a more peaceful world.

And of course I hope that the NE do these checkups on everybody and don't just single out Muslims.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Oh that's OK then. Its that fluffy, friendly, more focussed brand of bigotry.

I disagree anyway; if the man in the picture was white and cleanshaven, even if he had a massive sign above his head saying "I am a Muslim", people would not be having the same reaction to this "hilarious" photograph. Therefore, let's call it what it is: not islamophobia, but negative, destructive stereotyping based on casual racism.

I would call it being careful full stop. I personally am on guard if I see anyone I consider out of the ordinary whatever country, race or religion they are associated with. Its not under any circumstances discriminatory. Its called being alert and aware.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

I would call it being careful full stop. I personally am on guard if I see anyone I consider out of the ordinary whatever country, race or religion they are associated with. Its not under any circumstances discriminatory. Its called being alert and aware.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

I would call it being careful full stop. I personally am on guard if I see anyone I consider out of the ordinary whatever country, race or religion they are associated with. Its not under any circumstances discriminatory. Its called being alert and aware.

Exactly and that is what the Government have advised, the country is on full alert

To try and pretend that that chap would not make many a little worried is utter idealistic tosh

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

I would call it being careful full stop. I personally am on guard if I see anyone I consider out of the ordinary whatever country, race or religion they are associated with. Its not under any circumstances discriminatory. Its called being alert and aware.

At what cost to society as a whole though... And where is the line drawn?

I can understand where this logic comes from, it comes from the fear that ISIS is achieving at instilling in us. But at the end of the day, if I were on that bus, I would rather blow up into a million pieces then look at someones race, colour, attire, facial expressions, or any outward appearance and assume they were capable of horrible atrocities based on these factors. The day I do that is the day I know ISIS have stolen my personal liberties and freedoms.

Some people would go to war to defend their freedom, and are willing to die at doing so. I would rather die assuming the best about people until proven otherwise. Call me naive.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

I would call it being careful full stop. I personally am on guard if I see anyone I consider out of the ordinary whatever country, race or religion they are associated with. Its not under any circumstances discriminatory. Its called being alert and aware.

So by putting him off the bus he ceased to be a 'threat'....
Could he have not gone and got on another bus if that was his intention?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

I would call it being careful full stop. I personally am on guard if I see anyone I consider out of the ordinary whatever country, race or religion they are associated with.

Yes I am aware that many people (unfortunately, probably most people) live their lives with an undercurrent of xenophobia and casual racism but it is nice to have one's suppositions confirmed every once in a while, I suppose.

Its not under any circumstances discriminatory.

OK

Its called being alert and aware.

You might want to try being alert and aware to situations rather than outward appearances, is my advice. If someone is going to blow you up, he's going to be dressed in a hoodie and trainers, or a suit, or otherwise trying to blend in. He's not going to be "dressed like a terrorist lol!" . That's called stereotyping. And it's unambiguously ****ing racist.

[Kizzy]

This is classic stereotyping and the same reason little old ladies are scared of hoodies,...What you wear doesn't denote your intention.

[Crimson Dynamo]

get him in CBB

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

get him in CBB

Is that a new Reality Show - 'CHOPPER, BULLET, BOMB'?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Is that a new Reality Show - 'CHOPPER, BULLET, BOMB'?

That's evil.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Father Mockmas

That's evil.

YEAH.

[Kizzy]

It's perpetuating the stereotype, this thread is peppered with that, it could be considered casual racism too.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh what's happened here is quite simple at heart.

The security have checked him out for obvious reasons, his then refused to open his luggage not because his a Terrorist, but probably has something embarrassing to his Religion in there, the Security can't take the risk of that being the case so they've thrown him off the Bus.

Of course it looks like it's another "lets segregate the Muslim game" again, but I honestly think it's a mix of that and his own stupid behaviour that would get anyone on here thrown off a Bus if they conducted themselves in his manner too.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the thing perpetuating a stereotype is the fact that he comes here dressed like a fully fledged mujahideen and acts suspicious as **** on public transport.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think the thing perpetuating a stereotype is the fact that he comes here dressed like a fully fledged mujahideen and acts suspicious as **** on public transport.

Besides acting like an arrogant, aggressive, obnoxious and confrontational knobhead - according to the bulk of evidence.

[lostalex]

honestly if i saw that man, with the same expression on his face, he could be wearing a Catholic priest uniform or a Jewish rabbi uniform, hell he could even be wearing a 10 thousand dollar Armani suit, i'd be equally as scared of him.

That dude looks very anti-social.