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For what it's worth, I would love to see the UK at least try out the North American format. They would be fighting an uphill battle of trying to convince people who currently dislike the show it's a different show, whilst also trying to keep hold of those who watch the show as is (probably couldn't pull that off), but there are definite benefits to the US format.

For one, you'd be a lot more likely to get smarter, more interesting players for a US format after it was established than the crop we're used to. The last few years have been rife with people there to play up to the cameras, develop a TV career etc. Just the most bland lowest-common-denominator swill that turns the entire show into a media circus, leading to a vicious cycle of getting more and more extreme "says it like it is me" personalities (See: Helen). BBUS format could, on the one hand, lead to a group of cold, strategic people sitting in a house quietly plotting against one another, but with proper casting, treating Big Brother like a gameshow again would provide us with fun contestants instead of attention seeking media trainees.

I get that people have problems with a pure US format, I don't think it would fly very well if it was a complete immediate switch. What I think would work better is if they took some elements of it whilst retaining the important parts of the UK show (i.e. The Phone Vote). Previous attempts such as BB11's Save & Replace, BB9's Head of House and BB15's baffling housemate-chosen evictions were all completely the wrong way about it. The new series could have HOH tasks, allowing the HOH to choose 3 HMs for eviction. POV would be able to switch one out, and there would be a HM vote save one of those 3 after POV, leaving the public to vote to evict between the two remaining.

That's just one route they could take (admittedly, one which would lead to quite a messy conclusion in Final 4), the UK version needs some *consistent* shake-ups and BBUS is a framework that's proven to work.
This is a good post but there's still no point adopting the US format if you're going to let the public have overall control over who's evicted still, it undoes everything else and cancels it out, making the whole thing pointless.

You're on the right lines in terms of a compromise. Let the HoH nom three people, play for Veto as normal, then have the public SAVE one nominee (that's crucial) and let the housemates vote between the remaining two. It still gives the public some control that way and actually adds a new dynamic to the game rather than removing it completely if you still let the public decide who leaves

Give the UK a jury vote and you're all sorted
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This is a good post but there's still no point adopting the US format if you're going to let the public have overall control over who's evicted still, it undoes everything else and cancels it out, making the whole thing pointless.

You're on the right lines in terms of a compromise. Let the HoH nom three people, play for Veto as normal, then have the public SAVE one nominee (that's crucial) and let the housemates vote between the remaining two. It still gives the public some control that way and actually adds a new dynamic to the game rather than removing it completely if you still let the public decide who leaves

Give the UK a jury vote and you're all sorted
As someone who infinitely prefers VTS, this sounds perfect
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BBUS I guess but neither really

I don't think BBUS would work too well here but I hate the thought of celebs
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BBUS I guess but neither really

I don't think BBUS would work too well here but I hate the thought of celebs
Yeah, I don't think it would at all. I think they'd just be killing the show off once and for all.

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Yeah, I don't think it would at all. I think they'd just be killing the show off once and for all.
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That's already been done
Well it's still on the air so no it hasn't. My point is that a change as radical as this will see it end again imo (and I don't see it coming back for a third go around).
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Well it's still on the air so no it hasn't. My point is that a change as radical as this will see it end again imo (and I don't see it coming back for a third go around).
Yes it's still on air but the show is still dead because it's gone against what the whole show is about. It's not big brother anymore it's a C5 version of the only way is essex and a sparkle of Geordie Shore and some bits of Made in Chelsea. Civilian BB is no more since they are turning it into Celebrity Big Brother and then we will have another CBB straight afterwards.

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Celebrity vs Civilian as at least it would still be BBUK

There is already TWO BBUS English speaking formats running - why do people so desperately want a third?
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Celebrity vs Civilian as at least it would still be BBUK

There is already TWO BBUS English speaking formats running - why do people so desperately want a third?
but isn't that like saying there is already two CBBs every year why the need for 3 CBBs? because Celeb vs Cilv will be turned into CBB because the celebs will get most of the air time and will be the centre of attention so it really won't be civilian.
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I'd choose the show being axed tbh.
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There is already TWO BBUS English speaking formats running - why do people so desperately want a third?
WHy do people keep saying this? Some people just do have a preference, the number of versions that exist under that format is irrel.
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WHy do people keep saying this? Some people just do have a preference, the number of versions that exist under that format is irrel.
Well it kind of is because it tends to be people who watch those other versions. I can't imagine why people would want to watch three versions of the same format.

One of the appeals of watching other versions is to enjoy the differences. If they were all the same it wouldn't be like that.
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WHy do people keep saying this? Some people just do have a preference, the number of versions that exist under that format is irrel.
Because it's a valid point. If you prefer that format then stick to those shows, we don't need the roots of our BB changing.
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Well it kind of is because it tends to be people who watch those other versions. I can't imagine why people would want to watch three versions of the same format.

One of the appeals of watching other versions is to enjoy the differences. If they were all the same it wouldn't be like that.
I think the people who actually do watch the other versions are the ones to judge this.
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I watch all 3 and I don't want a BBUS format here
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Because it's a valid point. If you prefer that format then stick to those shows, we don't need the roots of our BB changing.
It's not, it's not for people who don't even watch BBCAN to tell me I shouldn't want three BBUS-style formats.
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It's not, it's not for people who don't even watch BBCAN to tell me I shouldn't want three BBUS-style formats.
But why would you want to?
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If they do Celeb vs Civilian Format then i won't be watching it because the show is focusing on celebrities and C5 are obsessed with celebrities that they have two CBBs a year and they are thinking about turning Civilian into another CBB. CBB is a spin off show and shouldn't be made into a main show. I rather them keep the civilian and celebrities separate which was the whole point in having Big Brother and Celebrity Big Brother. So give me USA/Australia/Canada format if it means keeping Civilian as it is.
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But why would you want to?
Because I genuinely think I prefer the US format, and want to see it in the UK. I don't even watch BBUS.
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Because I genuinely think I prefer the US format, and want to see it in the UK. I don't even watch BBUS.
So how can you prefer a format you don't watch?
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If they do Celeb vs Civilian Format then i won't be watching it because the show is focusing on celebrities and C5 are obsessed with celebrities that they have two CBBs a year and they are thinking about turning Civilian into another CBB. CBB is a spin off show and shouldn't be made into a main show. I rather them keep the civilian and celebrities separate which was the whole point in having Big Brother and Celebrity Big Brother. So give me USA/Australia/Canada format if it means keeping Civilian as it is.
This. This twist would deviate so much further from the format than the BBUS one does. I can't believe people are genuinely saying they'd effectively raather have 3 CBBs a year
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This. This twist would deviate so much further from the format than the BBUS one does. I can't believe people are genuinely saying they'd effectively raather have 3 CBBs a year
Tbh, the lines have been blurred for years.

Having people like Helen Wood in civilian BB whilst people like George Gilbey have been on CBB. They haven't known the difference between a CBB and BB contestant for a long time.
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This. This twist would deviate so much further from the format than the BBUS one does. I can't believe people are genuinely saying they'd effectively raather have 3 CBBs a year
How? the format would be exactly the same, just with BB and CBB combined. That's why people are voting for it over the US format which is a complete change.
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I don't think BBUS-style would be successful in the UK though, our producers aren't creative enough like BBCAN and would find a way to **** it up like they do currently anyway

The show has to change but the BBUS format is not the way forward imo
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