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Old 09-09-2017, 10:54 AM #1
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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...c-country-jobs

As 'Islamophobia' is a made -up word used by those with a clear agenda to shut down any criticism of one particular religion, including both the author of the article and the left-wing newspaper, what value do such emotive articles have other than to stir and further attempt to shut down any discussion on Islam. How better to control!
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"Islamophobia is a made up word, and I know this because sometimes it's difficult to criticise the religion"
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I don't agree with this article so it is therefore drivel and I will continue to post fair balanced articles from sources such as the sun or daily mail
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I don't agree with this article so it is therefore drivel and I will continue to post fair balanced articles from sources such as the sun or daily mail
I have hardly ever posted any articles from the Sun because the paper is crap and rarely from the Mail so as not to give certain posters the excuse to rubbish it as you well know.

I post articles from a wider variety of sources than most on here, again as you well know. No surprise though that you conviently ignore such facts to suit your agenda.
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Whether or not you believe in "Islamophobia", you only have to look at the article's title know it'll be a pile of rubbish. Why bother bringing it to light, just the let that particular blogger cry into her Starbucks mug and move on.
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Whether or not you believe in "Islamophobia", you only have to look at the article's title know it'll be a pile of rubbish. Why bother bringing it to light, just the let that particular blogger cry into her Starbucks mug and move on.
So you haven't read the article?
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So you haven't read the article?
I did not, but from your previous post it's good to know she called out some of the cackier aspects of islamic culture
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I did not, but from your previous post it's good to know she called out some of the cackier aspects of islamic culture
So you're judging an article without reading it?
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So you're judging an article without reading it?
As the well respected Dr. Jordan Peterson, who has been studying Islam for at least three years, said 'The word Islamophobia is a reprehensible word, a crooked word with manipulation built into its structure. Phobia is a word with medical, clinical and psychological meaning and the word Islamophobia has no place and no value within those fields'.

It is purely an agenda driven word used by those with an agenda - nothing more and nothing less.
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Whether or not you believe in "Islamophobia", you only have to look at the article's title know it'll be a pile of rubbish. Why bother bringing it to light, just the let that particular blogger cry into her Starbucks mug and move on.
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The headlines of opinion pieces are written by the editor not the author
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Islamophobia doesn't exist because somebody who isn't a muslim and has serious hatred for those that are said so.

The article seemed quite balanced to me, any conclusions were based off of established facts and stats and she even acknowledged the fact that Muslim women are held back by patriarchy and traditions within muslim families so I fail to understand your claims that it isn't a balanced article.

I assume you googled for stories about muslims, saw this headline and decided to get mad about it without actually reading the article itself. I'd advise you do so although I still suppose you'd try to invalidate it as you cannot accept opinions that don't allign with your own. Instead of arguing against an opinion you dislike, you can only try to shut them down.
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If I had an argument, and it could be shut down entirely by a single negative descriptor of my argument, I'd probably conclude that i don't have much of an argument. Probably because that single negative word would probably tell me a lot that I didn't know about myself before I made the argument.
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If I had an argument, and it could be shut down entirely by a single negative descriptor of my argument, I'd probably conclude that i don't have much of an argument. Probably because that single negative word would probably tell me a lot that I didn't know about myself before I made the argument.
Very true, only the flimsiest of arguments can be shut down with one word.
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Well obviously it's one-sided, that's kind of the point of an opinion piece.
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Aren't all words made up?
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To be fair Peterson didn't say muslims aren't discriminated against, he said that "Islamophobia" isn't the right word.
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There are dubious practices amongst the vast majority of religions yet you constantly only drone on about those attributed to the Muslim religion. Far more people in the UK have suffered at the hands of the Catholic religion.
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There are dubious practices amongst the vast majority of religions yet you constantly only drone on about those attributed to the Muslim religion. Far more people in the UK have suffered at the hands of the Catholic religion.
Maybe, maybe not - but Islam is the religion currently out there, constantly shoved down our throats and the one even given a made-up name in an attempt to shut down criticism. It is the most vocal demanding special treatment such as sharia law, prayer breaks in the workplace, exemption from criticism and jokes, automatic respect from non-Muslims whilst not doing the same for other religions. The dubious practices of the religion often seem to get lost behind all that.
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Maybe, maybe not - but Islam is the religion currently out there, constantly shoved down our throats and the one even given a made-up name in an attempt to shut down criticism. It is the most vocal demanding special treatment such as sharia law, prayer breaks in the workplace, exemption from criticism and jokes, automatic respect from non-Muslims whilst not doing the same for other religions. The dubious practices of the religion often seem to get lost behind all that.
No, its not out there any more than Judism or Christianity. Its only 'out there' on here where you continually bring up the subject of this religion so you can demonize it. You constantly try to ram its evils down our throats.

You clearly read up on its evilness all the time because every time you find something you deem a little juicy, you bring it here to 'shove it down our throats'.
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You clearly read up on its evilness all the time because every time you find something you deem a little juicy, you bring it here to 'shove it down our throats'.
That's the point though - I don't have to find something as it is there on the news, in the papers, on our streets - everywhere. It is not a quiet, discreet religion that just gets on with life. It throws its weight around and constantly seeks attention.
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That's the point though - I don't have to find something as it is there on the news, in the papers, on our streets - everywhere. It is not a quiet, discreet religion that just gets on with life. It throws its weight around and constantly seeks attention.
Its there in your news feed but not in mine. Just means we have very different news sources.
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As 'Islamophobia' is a made -up word used by those with a clear agenda to shut down any criticism of one particular religion, including both the author of the article and the left-wing newspaper, what value do such emotive articles have other than to stir and further attempt to shut down any discussion on Islam. How better to control!
How about antisemitism, is that made up?
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How about antisemitism, is that made up?
Not to my knowledge.
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Not to my knowledge.
Could that not be said to be a made up word that is used when a specific group is criticised?

Don't want to appear hypocritical do you?
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