[jaxie]

Originally Posted by lime

Livia you know i love you .....but I Want to know your opinion on why now??

Children are dying in Syria...don't want to swear ...but nobody gives a eff....as long as they don't come to Europe.
I guess what I'm askinrg is either you are uncomfortable with chilren being massacared ...or they way they are being .massacareed


When I say you...I most definetley don't mean you as a person

I can't speak for Livia but I can say that personally I feel a sense of horror and frustration by what is going on in Syria generally so any action seems like someone is doing something. Talking doesn't seem to be having any effect.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Livia

There's nothing like dying children to make me want to send the bombers in.

...and potentially kill more children

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Livia

There's nothing like dying children to make me want to send the bombers in.

[arista]

These Attacks went down at 4AM Syria time
Empty buildings, the USA General
Lt.Gen.K.McKenzie
Claims "the buildings" he ,the UK and France Hit
have put back the Syria Chemical Plants.
No one died.


Of course unless there are others
they have no data on.

[Oliver_W]

As far as I know the aim was to destroy their chemical weapon factories, not to specifically kill anyone. There's still the danger it will lead to things we don't want, like further conflict and migrants heading westward.

[arista]

[Syria airstrikes: Jeremy Corbyn hits out at 'legally questionable' military action
The Labour leader criticises Theresa May for not seeking parliamentary approval and says "bombs won't save lives or bring peace".]
https://news.sky.com/story/syria-air...ction-11330060



Correct JC
but it was a 4AM Saturday Syria Time Attack led by America

Not Tuesday
a day after Parliament opens up.

[thesheriff443]

Every effort has been made to sort this out with talks, it's Russia that's has blocked independent teams going into Syria to look for evidence into the use of nerve gas.

Nerve gas has been banned and it's use illegal for nearly s century.

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Every effort has been made to sort this out with talks, it's Russia that's has blocked independent teams going into Syria to look for evidence into the use of nerve gas.

Nerve gas has been banned and it's use illegal for nearly s century.

Infact not blocked by their own ideas,
that not many others in UN would agree.

[arista]

Meanwhile The Russian and the Syrian Planes
will continue Normal air bombs today killing
all ISIS but also all innocents , near them.
Including Children.


Best is to move out
let ISIS remain alone.

[arista]

[Tom4784]

Such an attack shouldn't have happened without approval from Parliament and Congress, this is the kind of attack that could so easily incite World War 3.

Have we not learned from our previous wars in the Middle East that nothing good comes from meddling in that region?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

As far as I know the aim was to destroy their chemical weapon factories, not to specifically kill anyone. There's still the danger it will lead to things we don't want, like further conflict and migrants heading westward.

We don’t want either!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Such an attack shouldn't have happened without approval from Parliament and Congress, this is the kind of attack that could so easily incite World War 3.

Have we not learned from our previous wars in the Middle East that nothing good comes from meddling in that region?

Dezzy
No one died
it was attacking Empty Chemical Building Plants.
4AM Syria time

Russia was made aware of these attacks

France , UK and the Leader USA
have not started WW3.

WW3 will start with other nations ,
I SAY.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Such an attack shouldn't have happened without approval from Parliament and Congress, this is the kind of attack that could so easily incite World War 3.

Have we not learned from our previous wars in the Middle East that nothing good comes from meddling in that region?

That's a genuine concern I think. Under most any other president, I think the prior lessons from our failures in Iraq would almost certainly be adhered to. I do think that Trump times these military events with local scandals, as it always seems to come with incredibly negative news coverage and so I feel like that's a side interest that can become a costly distraction... and I actively worry he's not of the good mind to carry forward a mission in Syria that is actually meaningful and successful. Actually, with every conflict like this, it does affect the US political/cultural climate locally (particularly our national psyche)... and I worry that he's not considering the psychological impact of these military actions, in a time when people are more seriously concerned about the state of our own democracy. My concern is if we were to then encroach further into Syria (not really certain at this point) and do another Iraq, try to bring democracy/stability that region, it may actually further inflame those cultural divisions here and lead to more than a war of ideas, but perhaps violence on our own soil by some of our own...

I wish I could say I was exaggerating with the latter. There aren't signs yet that the cultural bonds there have been disintegrated that far... but long-term it is a concern, as the divide and fractures continue to accumulate, that we aren't then doing things to reverse this process... and I do feel that a war, especially a badly executed PR mission, could be a genuine block on those cultural tensions between Americans being able to release and recede...

I think we had entered into Syria too late. I think the timing is a bit poor, but it doesn't mean we don't have options... and if it is limited to strikes and diplomacy, it may very well do some good in the region.

What can't continue is allowing Russia to push our leadership around and to have their way throughout across the world. NK and Iran are also an issue that will need to be dealt with over time, and if this strike creates further incentive to work with us rather than against us... then I think that some military action may not only be in order, but necessary to keep all parties invested in peace...

[bots]

let's take a little look back to the last few years.

Syria used chemical weapons, we tried countless times to get UN inspectors in, but this was vetoed by the russians SIX TIMES. When we did put sufficient pressure on to get things done, it was Russia that brokered the deal "removing" the chemical weapons.

Here we are now in the present day, and chemical weapons have been used again.Death from chemical weapons is horrific. It is unnecessarily cruel. To sit back and do nothing just because Russia says piss off, is to capitulate globally because having done it once and not faced consequences, they will just do it again, and again and again.


We can't just sit there and take this type of thing and surrender to what is a bully

[reece(:]

It should’ve gone to parliament, Miss May is getting trigger happy

[arista]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It should’ve gone to parliament, Miss May is getting trigger happy

Its a one off.
The PM appears to get away with it,
maybe due to France and
the Leader USA.

Monday Afternoon
she will be ready for Parliament.

2022 The General Election
she even wants to hang on for that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicola said that parliament should decide things like this not the American President

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Nicola said that parliament should decide things like this not the American President

Yes fair point

[Scarlett.]

BBC/Sky/Fox/CNN right now

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

There's nothing like dying children to make me want to send the bombers in.

Since when has may cared about those?..

https://www.indy100.com/article/peop...n-2016-8304756

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It should’ve gone to parliament, Miss May is getting trigger happy

Since when have many of the young ones on here given two hoots about the opinions of the ‘old farts’ in parliament. What do you suggest - allowing countries to use chemical weapons on innocent civilians until that is they try doing so to us.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Since when have many of the young ones on here given two hoots about the opinions of the ‘old farts’ in parliament. What do you suggest - allowing countries to use chemical weapons on innocent civilians until that is they try doing so to us.

Weren't you just discussing ageism?... Reeces post was entirely reasonable and valid and you denigrate him for his view because he is young with your unfounded presumptions? :/

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Weren't you just discussing ageism?... Reeces post was entirely reasonable and valid and you denigrate him for his view because he is young with your unfounded presumptions? :/

I commented in regard to what I have seen as the common young perspective on here from many of their ageist comments/posts before. Suddenly the old farts’ (a term, and equivalent I have heard myself on many occasions) opinions count. Very convenient.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I commented in regard to what I have seen as the common young perspective on here from many of their ageist comments/posts before. Suddenly the old farts’ (a term, and equivalent I have heard myself on many occasions) opinions count. Very convenient.

This is a bit out there Brillo... It's directed at nothing, for one... And even if it was the case, it seems to be based on the idea that MPs are all old, which isn't even true.