[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Elliot

So is free speech, so can these moronic right wingers stop using ‘freedom of opinion!!’ as a defence from people ever criticising them at all? Words come with consequences, don’t say and think bile if you’re not ready to bear responsibility for it!

Well actually NO,we dont have free speech do we, we have to be careful what we say

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the point is that in a tolerant world, people are allowed different opinions to your own. That doesnt make them scum or any other adjective thrown about this forum on a regular basis. What disappoints me greatly is that these same people expect others to be tolerant of them and their own views

Someone being intolerant of people receiving EQUAL RIGHTS is not a difference of opinion.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by reece(:

This forum is getting worse by the day... I can and will CONTINUE to call out a disgusting human being as long as they are shoved in my face in SD. A man openly against same sex marriage and is anti-abortion even in rape cases who wants to set us back 100 years IS disgusting to me. I won't be silenced by right wingers who have slung worse mud at Diane Abbott!

Get ‘em told

[Livia]

Originally Posted by reece(:

This forum is getting worse by the day... I can and will CONTINUE to call out a disgusting human being as long as they are shoved in my face in SD. A man openly against same sex marriage and is anti-abortion even in rape cases who wants to set us back 100 years IS disgusting to me. I won't be silenced by right wingers who have slung worse mud at Diane Abbott!

Yes, it's getting worse by the day when people are called disgusting human beings for believing what a lot of people believe. Lots of people are against same sex marriage while having no axe to grind with the gay community. I wonder if they are disgusting human beings too? Most of the Roman Catholic church are against abortion, as are Muslims and a cross-section of Jews, and I'm sure lots of people from other religions, and from none. All disgusting human beings according to you.

Diane Abbot is incompetent. You surely have to agree.

Really tired of people defining themselves and each other by how they stand politically. I mean, do people act like they do on the forum, in their real life?

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, it's getting worse by the day when people are called disgusting human beings for believing what a lot of people believe. Lots of people are against same sex marriage while having no axe to grind with the gay community. I wonder if they are disgusting human beings too? Most of the Roman Catholic church are against abortion, as are Muslims and a cross-section of Jews, and I'm sure lots of people from other religions, and from none. All disgusting human beings according to you.

Well no.... I don't know those people so cannot comment on any of them. I wouldn't be foolish to generalise whole communities but yeah try painting that on me.....

I know JRM is a slimy man with a track record in parliament that goes against my community. I have a voice and will use it to stand up for them and get people like him OUT of parliament. Not you or anyone else will suppress my opinion, try being personal all you want. That's what's really getting worse here, all the cheap personal digs.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Well no.... I don't know those people so cannot comment on any of them. I wouldn't be foolish to generalise whole communities but yeah try painting that on me.....

I know JRM is a slimy man with a track record in parliament that goes against my community. I have a voice and will use it to stand up for them and get people like him OUT of parliament. Not you or anyone else will suppress my opinion, try being personal all you want. That's what's really getting worse here, all the cheap personal digs.

"I have a voice and will use it to stand up for them and get people like him OUT of parliament."

i hate to inform you that he just got made Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"I have a voice and will use it to stand up for them and get people like him OUT of parliament."

i hate to inform you that he just got made Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council

In a minority government, yes let's see how that turns out!

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"I have a voice and will use it to stand up for them and get people like him OUT of parliament."

i hate to inform you that he just got made Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council

Yes he did. By an incompetent bumbling fool of a man who is not fit to run a creche let alone a country. It won't serve to enhance any popularity he may have accrued in the long run.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Well no.... I don't know those people so cannot comment on any of them. I wouldn't be foolish to generalise whole communities but yeah try painting that on me.....

I know JRM is a slimy man with a track record in parliament that goes against my community. I have a voice and will use it to stand up for them and get people like him OUT of parliament. Not you or anyone else will suppress my opinion, try being personal all you want. That's what's really getting worse here, all the cheap personal digs.

Please Reece, can you show me where I attacked you personally? I have nothing against you at all, never have had. In fact I quite like you despite our differences....

If you're going to site two reasons why you think JRM is a "disgusting human being" then you have to think everyone with those views is a disgusting human being or you're taking particular exception to him while excusing everyone else, and that makes no sense.

I am pro choice when it comes to abortion. I think his opinion on abortion is antiquated to say the least... but he has a right to it. Similarly with gay marriage... a religious person might stand against gay marriage while having no problem with gay people... Nothing is really that black and white.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Livia

Please Reece, can you show me where I attacked you personally? I have nothing against you at all, never have had. In fact I quite like you despite our differences....

If you're going to site two reasons why you think JRM is a "disgusting human being" then you have to think everyone with those views is a disgusting human being or you're taking particular exception to him while excusing everyone else, and that makes no sense.

I am pro choice when it comes to abortion. I think his opinion on abortion is antiquated to say the least... but he has a right to it. Similarly with gay marriage... a religious person might stand against gay marriage while having no problem with gay people... Nothing is really that black and white.

I think the man is sneaky and slimy, his voting record is abhorrent on nearly every issue (naming some... fox hunting, climate change denier, privatisation).
Of course I do not think whole communities are disgusting that's ridiculous but this man, who is given too much (imo) public spotlight is a horrid role model and it is disgusting he has been given such powers! He makes my skin crawl.

A brilliant pair of articles I found which represent my thoughts; https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8194011.html
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/articl...s-mogg-comment

voting for private members’ clubs being exempt from the smoking ban... as long as they don’t serve food

Just a totally pompous, odious individual.

[Shaun]

I'm confused by the objection to the word "ascertain".

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm confused by the objection to the word "ascertain".

i shall try and find out

[Livia]

He was a really good Mayor of London... and the Olympics was amazing. How can anyone say that's not true!?

[Holly Christmas]

He was in a figurehead position as the Mayor and I sincerely doubt he put on the Olympics singlehandedly. He will have had a giant team of advisors and backers. He is still an incompetent fool.

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Kate!

He was in a figurehead position as the Mayor and I sincerely doubt he put on the Olympics singlehandedly. He will have had a giant team of advisors and backers. He is still an incompetent fool.

This.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Kate!

He was in a figurehead position as the Mayor and I sincerely doubt he put on the Olympics singlehandedly. He will have had a giant team of advisors and backers. He is still an incompetent fool.

He read Classics at Balliol College, Oxford was President of the Oxford Union -he was mayor of London and now is PM of the UK to call him that is rather silly

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He read Classics at Balliol College, Oxford was President of the Oxford Union -he was mayor of London and now is PM of the UK to call him that is rather silly

Well to me my beliefs are not silly.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kate!

He was in a figurehead position as the Mayor and I sincerely doubt he put on the Olympics singlehandedly. He will have had a giant team of advisors and backers. He is still an incompetent fool.

When has he shown incompetence?

[Livia]

LOL.... oh come on.... no senior politician is a one man band. Boris made a VASTLY better job than that old wannabe Soviet Ken Livingstone.

Like Trumpet says, he went to Balliol. No stupid people get to go there.

[SherzyK]

[Livia]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Serious debates. Just sayin'...

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by Livia

Serious debates. Just sayin'...

Not the best word to describe Boris but whatever.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Not the best word to describe Boris but whatever.

He's the prime minister. This is serious debates. You see where I'm going?

[Holly Christmas]

He is described across the board on the web as a racist homophobic and incompetent buffoon who has little or zero chance of staying Prime Minister long term. He will do no better with Brexit than May did.

[chuff me dizzy]

I cannot wait for Boris to prove his haters so wrong