Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-03-2023, 01:24 PM #1
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
It was brought up in Parliament

Gary should not use the 1930's
What a pathetic government and a complete trampling of freedom of speech. This is a country of bootlickers that kowtow to power at every given opportunity.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:33 PM #2
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom4784 View Post
What a pathetic government and a complete trampling of freedom of speech. This is a country of bootlickers that kowtow to power at every given opportunity.

A clip was on BBCnewsHD
By the Correct MP

Lucy Frazer KC MP
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport





She said the BBC will deal with this,
arista is online now  
Old 09-03-2023, 12:03 PM #3
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,970

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,970

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

There’s a very simple remedy to not have your speech compared to the nazis, just don’t talk like them, it’s not that hard
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 12:06 PM #4
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
There’s a very simple remedy to not have your speech compared to the nazis, just don’t talk like them, it’s not that hard
But would you say the same to the hardline LGBTQ activists who advocate for compelled speech? Because that too has a fair whiff of fascism about it. Or the ones picketing Universities to try to stop studies that have already gone through high-level ethics committees because they're worried they won't like what the research shows... that's happening an awful lot, too.
user104658 is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 12:39 PM #5
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
There’s a very simple remedy to not have your speech compared to the nazis, just don’t talk like them, it’s not that hard

No Liam
you are not having that,




The Nazi's put loads of people in a room
to get a Shower,
but it was a Gas (Zyklon B)
that came in that sealed room,
they all died.



Bloody Hell, Liam
we are nothing like that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

Last edited by arista; 09-03-2023 at 12:48 PM.
arista is online now  
Old 09-03-2023, 12:20 PM #6
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53,236

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53,236

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

i want lineker off my screen and the sooner the government act, the better. I will accept a £100 rise in my bill .... just for that ..... hmmm
bots is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 12:45 PM #7
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
Default

arista is online now  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:04 PM #8
Livia's Avatar
Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,777


Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
Livia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,777


Default

It demonstrates beautifully how little Lineker knows about 1930s Germany.
Livia is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:07 PM #9
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
It demonstrates beautifully how little Lineker knows about 1930s Germany.

Great Point
arista is online now  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:33 PM #10
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
It demonstrates beautifully how little Lineker knows about 1930s Germany.
More accurately, it demonstrates how the right wing will throw up jewish people as a shield and act like any condemnation of their actions is an attack on them when it's far from it.




This is a video of a holocaust survivor confronting Suella Braverman on the use of her language and how it was similar to that of the Nazis. Does she not know anything about what she's talking about either? How are you going to make out that she's talking ****, I wonder?

The tories are constantly using language in much the same way that the nazis did, deny it all you want, use the deaths of millions of people as a shield to protect your precious tories, but in the end, the rhetoric is scarily similar and we should be highlighting and condemning such rhetoric since we've all seen where it leads in the end. To defend it by making out that the comparison is somehow an attack on jewish people is quite reprehensible.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:37 PM #11
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom4784 View Post
More accurately, it demonstrates how the right wing will throw up jewish people as a shield and act like any condemnation of their actions is an attack on them when it's far from it.




This is a video of a holocaust survivor confronting Suella Braverman on the use of her language and how it was similar to that of the Nazis. Does she not know anything about what she's talking about either? How are you going to make out that she's talking ****, I wonder?

The tories are constantly using language in much the same way that the nazis did, deny it all you want, use the deaths of millions of people as a shield to protect your precious tories, but in the end, the rhetoric is scarily similar and we should be highlighting and condemning such rhetoric since we've all seen where it leads in the end. To defend it by making out that the comparison is somehow an attack on jewish people is quite reprehensible.

Yes of course that Lady was upset.
arista is online now  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:09 PM #12
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,970

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,970

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

If the BBC (Tory) fat cats are angry about Gary’s comments away from his job for being ‘bias’ I can only assume they’re seething about the blatant bias on bbc programmes from the likes of Fiona Bruce and Laura K
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:15 PM #13
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 187,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
If the BBC (Tory) fat cats are angry about Gary’s comments away from his job for being ‘bias’ I can only assume they’re seething about the blatant bias on bbc programmes from the likes of Fiona Bruce and Laura K

Again Liam

This is more serious
we are not Nazi's.


As a BBC Worker
I pay his wages
arista is online now  
Old 09-03-2023, 03:31 PM #14
GiRTh's Avatar
GiRTh GiRTh is offline
Iconic Symbolic Historic
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 32,148

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Jess Impiazzi
Strictly 2017: Davood Ghadami


GiRTh GiRTh is offline
Iconic Symbolic Historic
GiRTh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 32,148

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Jess Impiazzi
Strictly 2017: Davood Ghadami


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
If the BBC (Tory) fat cats are angry about Gary’s comments away from his job for being ‘bias’ I can only assume they’re seething about the blatant bias on bbc programmes from the likes of Fiona Bruce and Laura K
I agree with this. Especially Fiona Bruce. She makes QT unwatchable.

Lineker said it on Twitter and he is entitled to his opinion. If he'd said this on MOTD then that is another matter.

Didn't Gary Neville have a pop at the government while on air? That's not acceptable. He's not there for his political views. The thing that people are getting their knickers in a twist is the Nazi comparison.
__________________

Quote:
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you. - Don Marquis
GiRTh is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:12 PM #15
Livia's Avatar
Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,777


Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
Livia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,777


Default

Tory fat-cats at the BBC? LOL..... right.
Livia is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:21 PM #16
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,840

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,840

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
If the BBC (Tory) fat cats are angry about Gary’s comments away from his job for being ‘bias’ I can only assume they’re seething about the blatant bias on bbc programmes from the likes of Fiona Bruce and Laura K
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Tory fat-cats at the BBC? LOL..... right.
If "both sides" are accusing the BBC of bias, they must be doing something right
__________________

Oliver_W is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:31 PM #17
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,970

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,970

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

The whinging right wingers in this world adore the concept of free speech when it involves protecting them and their views and their right to express those views freely and openly, yet they routinely rally against free speech for those that they disagree with and those that criticise them and their ideals, everybody knows this, if Linekar had come out and said he agreed with Rishi and Braverman, this debate wouldn’t be happening and the Tory run bbc wouldn’t be under pressure to fire him for his opinion from the same people that have been pushing this whole idea of cancel culture and the right wing being punished for having different views, it’s a grift from top to bottom and it’s not to be taken seriously
__________________
Liam- is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:17 PM #18
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 106,023


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 106,023


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom4784 View Post
Right Wingers are just ****ing babies. They've never had to struggle, they've played life on easy mode and they act like the most minor of inconveniences is oppression. Boomers and Gen X basically got everything handed to them on a silver platter and they squandered it all, and are leaving the world in a much worse state out of spite and incompetence.

Right Wingers are spoiled brats that have never known actual struggle so they invent things and slights to be mad about. Pathetic people.


i wondered when it would all be about "old people"
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:37 PM #19
Livia's Avatar
Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,777


Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
Livia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,777


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post


i wondered when it would all be about "old people"
Although Dezzy must be getting up there now...
Livia is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:39 PM #20
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,809

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,809

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Although Dezzy must be getting up there now...
the clock sure hasn't stopped for him
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:58 PM #21
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post


i wondered when it would all be about "old people"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Although Dezzy must be getting up there now...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
the clock sure hasn't stopped for him
You three are so fragile.

Facts hurt, your generation sent the world into a nosedive, cry about it.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:39 PM #22
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,809

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,809

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post


i wondered when it would all be about "old people"
struggle ....
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:37 PM #23
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53,236

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53,236

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Nobody is saying lineker can't speak, they are saying he cant make political comments while being a freelancer at the bbc. It's a big difference.
bots is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 01:39 PM #24
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
Nobody is saying lineker can't speak, they are saying he cant make political comments while being a freelancer at the bbc. It's a big difference.
Except you basically want him to lose his job because he said something you didn't like and it disrupted the right wing echo chamber that the BBC has become.

You want him to face consequences for an opinion that falls entirely under freedom of speech because you don't like what he said. You continue to oppose freedom of speech while pretending you aren't.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:46 PM #25
Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,840

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Oliver_W Oliver_W is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bill's Secret Garden
Posts: 17,840

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 8: Chris
Apprentice 2019: Lottie


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
Nobody is saying lineker can't speak, they are saying he cant make political comments while being a freelancer at the bbc. It's a big difference.
Wasn't it in his own time? Being a freelancer shouldn't mean he should even keep his tweets BBC-friendly.
__________________

Oliver_W is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
back, knuckles, libtard, linekar, nazis, rapped, rightly, suspended, time

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts