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Old 19-07-2024, 02:08 PM #1
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No good for a Plane to Depart
until the other nation can accept the plane

CEO Crowdstrike George Kurtz
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Hope they sort it long before we go to see the in-laws, don't want to spend half the trip at the bloody airport.
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I haven't been impacted but IAH/Bush Intercontinental impacted quite a bit. Or at least I saw a map where it had to cancel a lot of flights.
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Crowdstrike based in Texas.

Microsoft need to Fire them

Blue Screen on someone's device , needs a technician
to fix it.


This is costing too much money to Correct.

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Crowdstrike based in Texas.

Microsoft need to Fire them

Blue Screen on someone's device , needs a technician
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This is costing too much money to Correct.

Sack Crowdstrike
Crowdstrike does not work for Microsoft. It's independent security software, that released an update with a bug that happens to crash Windows computers. It has nothing to do with Microsoft other than that the bug in a Windows dll file.

The number if people who think this is a Microsoft/Windows bug is staggering though. Huge reputational damage for Microsoft and they made no error. Lol.

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So won’t Crowdstrike now be liable for the billions of £€$ lost by companies and millions of individual users …. yesterday and in the coming weeks


I would imagine Microsoft will be able to claim zillions in lost potential profits given most seem to think it’s their fault ?


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Crowdstrike wont be liable for a penny
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Crowdstrike wont be liable for a penny

Why not ?


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Who is then ?
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Already in Australia
Criminals have sent a link to fix the damage,
they then break into your Professional PC or laptop.

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it doesn't affect domestic consumers
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it doesn't affect domestic consumers

Yes thanks
I added they are Professional

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companies use software at their own risk
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Correct and that'll be firmly within the EULA of the software.

The thing is - it's not even a complex bug, it's just a bad one because

1) it causes a full system crash until fixed and
2) it requires booting into safe mode or root access to delete the affected file
3) it has to be fixed per-computer and can't be rolled out centrally
4) it's on literally tens of millions of computers
5) it's on a tonne of secure systems, which means the root/safe-mode are usually locked except to tech support people.
6) There are nowhere near enough IT support people to fix so many computers in a short timeframe, if they have to physically go to them one by one.

The fix is really simple. If it happened on your home PC you could fix it in 10 minutes with very simple instructions. But as above... the computers it's on (NHS, airports, financial systems etc.) are locked up tight so even if you disseminate instructions on how to fix it, people don't have the admin privileges needed to apply the fix.

It's a series of small things adding up to a huge problem, basically.
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Correct and that'll be firmly within the EULA of the software.

The thing is - it's not even a complex bug, it's just a bad one because

1) it causes a full system crash until fixed and
2) it requires booting into safe mode or root access to delete the affected file
3) it has to be fixed per-computer and can't be rolled out centrally
4) it's on literally tens of millions of computers
5) it's on a tonne of secure systems, which means the root/safe-mode are usually locked except to tech support people.
6) There are nowhere near enough IT support people to fix so many computers in a short timeframe, if they have to physically go to them one by one.

The fix is really simple. If it happened on your home PC you could fix it in 10 minutes with very simple instructions. But as above... the computers it's on (NHS, airports, financial systems etc.) are locked up tight so even if you disseminate instructions on how to fix it, people don't have the admin privileges needed to apply the fix.

It's a series of small things adding up to a huge problem, basically.
just taking airports as a small example. Every gate has a windows computer. Now multiply that to ever airport in the world. Each one now requires tech maintenance. It will take weeks to fix it
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