[armand.kay]

I think the problem with Clara is that she doesn't really have a story behind her and she has no motive at all. They have taken no time out to develop her character.

Rose: she was a girl who lived in South East London who was fed up of her mundane life which explained why she ended up traveling with the doctor. Her character continued to develop throughout her adventures with the doctor.

Martha: She couldn't handle all the demands of her life from her over baring mum, her sagar daddy dad, his gold digging gf and from her training as a nurse. She met the doctor and he took her on an adventure and she ended up developing feeling for him.

Donna: she originally rejected his offer to travel with the doctor and regretted it since she then spent ages looking for him and she found him she was already packed and ready to go

Amy: since being a little girl she's waited for this raggedy man in a blue box to take her on an adventure she grew up to be a crazy bitch who stanned for someone everyone thought was in her imagination except he ended up being real and he took her away.

Clara: she was a babysitter having internet problems and she called the wrong number.....

There was more character development for the companions in the classic series and that's in like the 60s

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Clara: she was a babysitter having internet problems and she called the wrong number.....

[armand.kay]

I also hate how much stuff happens off screen

[armand.kay]

I sound so moany lmao

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I think the problem with Clara is that she doesn't really have a story behind her and she has no motive at all. They have taken no time out to develop her character.

Rose: she was a girl who lived in South East London who was fed up of her mundane life which explained why she ended up traveling with the doctor. Her character continued to develop throughout her adventures with the doctor.

Martha: She couldn't handle all the demands of her life from her over baring mum, her sagar daddy dad, his gold digging gf and from her training as a nurse. She met the doctor and he took her on an adventure and she ended up developing feeling for him.

Donna: she originally rejected his offer to travel with the doctor and regretted it since she then spent ages looking for him and she found him she was already packed and ready to go

Amy: since being a little girl she's waited for this raggedy man in a blue box to take her on an adventure she grew up to be a crazy bitch who stanned for someone everyone thought was in her imagination except he ended up being real and he took her away.

Clara: she was a babysitter having internet problems and she called the wrong number.....

There was more character development for the companions in the classic series and that's in like the 60s

The whole point of Clara originally is that her existence was a mystery to the doctor which is why she didn't really get a whole lot of character development until the Christmas Special and why she got a lot more of a rounded personality in Deep Breath.

[Sticks]

Too late now, Jenna is leaving the show at Christmas

[Tom4784]

It's just a rumour until it's confirmed and even if that's the case it doesn't mean she can't be developed further, Martha and Donna were only around for one season and they were fully fleshed out characters.

[Jamesy]

Clara's story came to an end in series seven for me. The whole interest of her was just the mystery of who (or what) she was. Now that we know that there's not a whole lot more to develop. We kinda learnt her whole life in a few episodes. All we can really gather from Clara now is that she struggled through the loss of her mother, with a plain life and nothing going for her. The Doctor came along and saved her from that. Although now with a job as a teacher she still wants a 'normal' life but some adventures with the Doctor too, to have some excitement in life. I'd assume the new character Danny Pink will no doubt become a love interest and that will leave her with a good happy way to leave the show. I doubt after killing Amy and Rory they will kill off Clara. I think we'll see a happier ending, maybe a bit like Martha's exit. Although you never know with Moffat, he seems to like to use death a lot.

I still like Clara, although she doesn't hit my top list of modern companions. Amy still hits the spot on that one.

Regarding the comments a few pages back, Doctor Who is just BBC/BBC Wales at the moment. Although there were talks at one point of the show moving over to BBC Worldwide. Not sure how that would affect the show but it's interesting nonetheless. I'd rather see it stay on BBC Wales personally. Doctor Who is the kind of show I like for having crap CGI, dodgy editing and cheesy moments. It's what made the classic series so loved and what makes the modern series just as loved. Even though the show has matured since 2005 it still has its moments.

[Jarrod]

Doctor Who has become the main central point for BBC Wales. It's put Wales on the map for many people, alongside Torchwood and SJA for example. I don't think BBC Wales would be anything without the DW franchise now.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

Doctor Who has become the main central point for BBC Wales. It's put Wales on the map for many people, alongside Torchwood and SJA for example. I don't think BBC Wales would be anything without the DW franchise now.

Agreed, i got a DM on twitter the other day from an American and they were like 'You're in Cardiff, that's where Torchwood is!' i don't many people in America or other places in the world would know where Wales was if it wasn't for Doctor Who and the likes.

[JTM45]

I think Capaldi is much better than Matt Smith!
I personally thought Matt Smith was awful as the Doctor...........far too young and a terrible actor!

It's probably been mentioned in this thread somewhere that the first 5 episodes of the new series were leaked online before last week's premier aired.
They're workprints though so they're in Black & White and they have "Property of BBC......" text on the top of the screen and a time clock etc..
I'd rather wait for the proper versions to air but i know a lot of the Who fanatics just can't resist the temptation!

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I think Capaldi is much better than Matt Smith!
I personally thought Matt Smith was awful as the Doctor...........far too young and a terrible actor!

It's probably been mentioned in this thread somewhere that the first 5 episodes of the new series were leaked online before last week's premier aired.
They're workprints though so they're in Black & White and they have "Property of BBC......" text on the top of the screen and a time clock etc..
I'd rather wait for the proper versions to air but i know a lot of the Who fanatics just can't resist the temptation!

wat

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Glenn

wat

Anyone younger than say....David Tennant, as far as i'm concerned, just doesn't suit the part of the Doctor! To play The Doctor well an actor needs a certain gravitas which Matt Smith clearly didn't possess!
I know theoretically The Doctor could appear to be any age but Matt Smith just came across as a buffoon with a disproportionately large chin and a disproportionately small talent for acting.

The best actor to ever play the Doctor was, in my opinion, Tom Baker!

[armand.kay]

I liked matt smith tbh

[armand.kay]

when i first saw him I hated him... but that's probably because tennant had just left and I was pressed

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I also hate how much stuff happens off screen

I too am fed up of this. The majority of the stories take place off camera/between episodes or series and we have to put up with it being spewed out as exposition between characters.

Show don't tell.

[Jarrod]

Tonight's episode looks great.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

Doctor Who has become the main central point for BBC Wales. It's put Wales on the map for many people, alongside Torchwood and SJA for example. I don't think BBC Wales would be anything without the DW franchise now.

Yeah, haven't they only just built within the last two years a whole new compound for the show in Cardiff? Fancy new studios/sets.

[Marsh.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-disorder.html

Let's just close down television and everyone stay at home. You can't breathe without offending.

I suppose showing a clip of someone flicking a light switch or cleaning up will offend people with OCD too.

[Sticks]

I thought that was going to be about the 6 people who complained to Offcom about that lesbian kiss scene between Madam Vastra and Jenny

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, haven't they only just built within the last two years a whole new compound for the show in Cardiff? Fancy new studios/sets.

Yeah. Roath Lock has been built especially for BBC Wales and the majority of the studios are dedicated to Doctor Who, and the permanent sets like the TARDIS. Not to mention they've recently built a huge complex for the Doctor Who Experience just opposite.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I thought that was going to be about the 6 people who complained to Offcom about that lesbian kiss scene between Madam Vastra and Jenny

It's absolute madness.

[Jarrod]

The website has been given a slight overhaul!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0

[Jarrod]

Also, here's just an update of the OP which still displays stuff for Series Seven.

Doctor Who returns to BBC One with a complete 12 episode run staring Peter Capaldi as The Doctor and Jenna Coleman as Clara Oswald.

Series Eight Episode Guide
1. Deep Breath
2. Into The Dalek
3. Robots Of Sherwood
4. Listen
5. Time Heist
6. The Caretaker
7. Kill The Moon
8. Mummy On The Orient Express
9. Flatline
10. Into The Forest Of The Night
11. Dark Water
12. Death In Heaven

Next on TV: Saturday 6th September

Episode Ratings:
Deep Breath - 6.79 Million [Overnight]
Into The Dalek - TBA

[Jamesy]

Lmao at that Daily Fail article. I'd sympathise more if they did actually show hair being ripped out on Doctor Who, like someone ripping their full head of hair out. But literally it was just two strands of hair being pulled out.

Tonights episode looks great. There have been far too many Dalek episodes these past two years but tonights one looks like it will be pretty good.