[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It isn't just 5 days extra.
They are closing Parliament down for weeks.

During the conference season parliament goes into recess but is not suspended and closed down.

Proroguing is closing it down totally.
Not just recess.

There's a big difference.

Valid Point Joey
A Stand Corrected by You.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Valid Point Joey
A Stand Corrected by You.

Many thanks arista, I appreciate that.

You rarely get things not wholly right yourself anyway.
You know your stuff too, especially on politics as I've found from you in all my years debating with you on here.

Thank you again.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the mark of when democracy became dead in that infamous ditch, Joey..?...

Yes Ammi.
Sadly for UK democracy,very much so.

[arista]

Greeve MP Former Conservative
now has 2 Hours to debate the 5 week Closed Parliament

[arista]

Corbyn also has a debate
for 90mins
Right after.

On The Rule Of Law

[Twosugars]

This 6 month extension has been wasted by cons on their own, nothing has been done on the deal

Btw, its astonishing they all have time for summer holiday, internal elections and conferences

[arista]

[Kizzy]

To me the Tories have always been the dark side so that is very apt!

[arista]

Vote Greeve
to release Yellowhammer & private messages

311 yes
302 no

[arista]

MPs support Corbyn's motion without a vote


Rule Of Law.

[Kizzy]

No wonder Boris is shutting parliament he couldn't win a vote on anything now ... just give it up bojo

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I already said that 54% of voters, voted for parties that explicitly ruled out a no deal.

But elections don't work like that in this country.

If we all kept changing the rules of the outcome to suit us every time we lose, then we wouldn't lose.

Brits used to know how to lose gracefully, now we live in a country of people who are spoilt brats, that want it their way every single time, and if they do lose, they stamp their feet, throw their toys and spit their dummy out.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Fake news
They didn't win if you count the votes of all opposition parties calling for a soft brexit or no brexit at all
More people voted for those than no deal

If you count the votes of all opposition parties.

We don't. If we did, then all opposition would be in Government.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

If you count the votes of all opposition parties.

We don't. If we did, then all opposition would be in Government.

But we do IF we want to treat the last election as a referendum on a deal. As you have done.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

But we do IF we want to treat the last election as a referendum on a deal. As you have done.

That 54% can't have been to bothered. because they were more than happy to split the vote of the others, to give the No deal option victory.

[arista]

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Brits used to know how to lose gracefully, now we live in a country of people who are spoilt brats, that want it their way every single time, and if they do lose, they stamp their feet, throw their toys and spit their dummy out.

Yes, I mean, its not like the leavers were already publically planning another vote..when they thought they would lose Definitely just remainers who think to go ahead for something so big, on such a tiny minority is quite ridiculous, especially when so many had no clue wha they were voting for as the lies were even worse than usual. But yeah, main headlining leaver was saying hours before leave won, that until it was 33/66 or whatever, the result should not be used at all, as 52/48 is way too close to actually count. Oddly enough, this did not bother him, nor his supporters when the result came, and instead they jumped straight onto calling people remoaners or whatever, when they said the exact same thing he had said before he knew the result..

Meanwhile, we seem to have a bunch of people who do not give a **** what happens to the country aslong as we get 'nodeal', which we apparently voted for, despite the leave campaign regularly going on about how we could make trade deals easily and such, and 'no deal brexit' was dismissed as project fear, it would never happen, apparently. Hmm.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

That is brilliant! And so apt!!

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

That 54% can't have been to bothered. because they were more than happy to split the vote of the others, to give the No deal option victory.

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Fake news
They didn't win if you count the votes of all opposition parties calling for a soft brexit or no brexit at all
More people voted for those than no deal

.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes, I mean, its not like the leavers were already publically planning another vote..when they thought they would lose Definitely just remainers who think to go ahead for something so big, on such a tiny minority is quite ridiculous, especially when so many had no clue wha they were voting for as the lies were even worse than usual. But yeah, main headlining leaver was saying hours before leave won, that until it was 33/66 or whatever, the result should not be used at all, as 52/48 is way too close to actually count. Oddly enough, this did not bother him, nor his supporters when the result came, and instead they jumped straight onto calling people remoaners or whatever, when they said the exact same thing he had said before he knew the result..

Meanwhile, we seem to have a bunch of people who do not give a **** what happens to the country aslong as we get 'nodeal', which we apparently voted for, despite the leave campaign regularly going on about how we could make trade deals easily and such, and 'no deal brexit' was dismissed as project fear, it would never happen, apparently. Hmm.

"People had know Idea what they were voting for"

What a snobbish statement,. You continue looking down on people, and telling them what they did and didn't do. That's why you're losing.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

"People had know Idea what they were voting for"

What a snobbish statement,. You continue looking down on people, and telling them what they did and didn't do. That's why you're losing.

People were lied to so yes they didnt know what they were voting for

Nothing to do with snobism

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

People were lied to so yes they didnt know what they were voting for

Nothing to do with snobism

What if you took no notice of the lies? and was gonna vote leave no matter what was said?

Just because you accept everything the television tells you, doesn't mean everyone else does.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Alf

"People had know Idea what they were voting for"

What a snobbish statement,. You continue looking down on people, and telling them what they did and didn't do. That's why you're losing.

People did have absolutely no idea what they were voting for. If you look on the old brexit poll thread, I didn't either. Until after the vote. The campaign was just so full of ****ing lies. Of course, as always 'not ALL' people..but of course, that should go without saying. I would estimate the majority though..hell some people still don't understand it all now..

Also its not telling people what they did and didn't do, when they openly admit they thought a deal would happen. And they thought a deal would happen, given the leave side bleated on constantly about how a deal wouldn't only happen, it would be easy, and it would be possible to strip away all the bad bits about being part of the EU, while retaining the good.

[arista]

Corbyn has rejected the PM's Election of the 15th
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[arista]

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