[MTVN]

Congrats bots

[arista]

[bots]

Definitely feeling the effects of it today, seriously groggy head. I look on it positively though, it means my system is busy generating an army to fight off the invaders

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Definitely feeling the effects of it today, seriously groggy head. I look on it positively though, it means my system is busy generating an army to fight off the invaders

Take.it easy today BoTs. Hope you feel better soon

[Ammi]

...tiredness/grogginess seems to be the side effect we’re hearing mostly but only a day or two and not the worst side effect, when we think...just go with it and flow with it, bots....you’ll have no time to sleep soon, well soonish when we’re more fully at the end of the tunnel......

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Definitely feeling the effects of it today, seriously groggy head. I look on it positively though, it means my system is busy generating an army to fight off the invaders

Boost those antibodies

[Cherie]

Just been reading on the Citizens Advice forum for Spain that some expats who access healthcare via private health insurance have been turned away even with residencia from signing up so they will be called for their vaccine, they have been told to go back to their country to get it

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Just been reading on the Citizens Advice forum for Spain that some expats who access healthcare via private health insurance have been turned away even with residencia from signing up so they will be called for their vaccine, they have been told to go back to their country to get it

the EU are starting to look very petty in all this, their reputation is going to take a permanent hit. The money that the expats have pumped in to the spanish economy pays for any vaccine needs, but that seems quickly forgotten.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Definitely feeling the effects of it today, seriously groggy head. I look on it positively though, it means my system is busy generating an army to fight off the invaders

You will be feeling better tomorrow.
Get some rest today.

[Lewismacfarlane]

Me and my mum got our jags on Monday I was fine but my mum was ill for a full two days

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

Me and my mum got our jags on Monday I was fine but my mum was ill for a full two days

Two more off the TiBB list

[Nicky91]

87 people who have died after receiving the vaccine, now here in Netherlands

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

87 people who have died after receiving the vaccine, now here in Netherlands

But they need 2 Vaccines,

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

87 people who have died after receiving the vaccine, now here in Netherlands

The issue here is..older quite ill people are getting it.

Its the same problem I saw with using the very blunt '28 days after a positive test' for numbers of covid deaths. A lot of these people were very frail, and could very well have died without covid, or without the vaccine.

I don't think it helps anyone really to say they died of the vaccine, or because of the vaccine, unless that can be proven in some way. When you give a medical treatment to a lot of elderly people, sadly, some will die. I suspect it is a much lower number than would have died with covid though really :S Not that that would be any comfort to the families of those who *might* have died from vaccine side effects though I guess.

Gavins got his in half an hour

[bots]

it could just as easily be linked to it snowing, but that wouldn't make a headline

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it could just as easily be linked to it snowing, but that wouldn't make a headline

Exactly.

[Vicky.]

Well gavs is done now..we shall see if the side effects do affect him badly. Hopefully not, but it seems almost 50/50 (among people I know anyway) as to whether you get nowt but a sore arm, or flu like symptoms for a few days.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well gavs is done now..we shall see if the side effects do affect him badly. Hopefully not, but it seems almost 50/50 (among people I know anyway) as to whether you get nowt but a sore arm, or flu like symptoms for a few days.

my biggest concern was for the first 15 mins in case i got an allergic reaction. Is my breathing different, am i hot and sweaty, is my throat tightening ... which of course makes you feel all those things

[Vanessa]

I'll take some paracetamol for my second dose.
And hopefully I won't be sick too much

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my biggest concern was for the first 15 mins in case i got an allergic reaction. Is my breathing different, am i hot and sweaty, is my throat tightening ... which of course makes you feel all those things

Funnily enough , me and the wife got jabbed at the same time and sat near each other in the waiting area..

I too was dreading a bad reaction given my propensity for feinting and reacting badly to fumes , strong tastes , antibiotics etc

Anyways I was sat there monitoring all my bodily functions .. including heart rate on my Apple Watch ... very soon I noticed a stinging, sore pain in my jabbed arm and started to breathe faster .... mild panic ...

After a few minutes I looked to my wife and said “my arm is stinging and starting to hurt !”

She said casually... “ same here “


To which I replied “ I wish you’d said something five minutes ago !”


True story ...


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[Nicky91]

first Covax vaccine doses have arrived in Moldova, according to president Sandu

https://news.yahoo.com/moldova-first...081558028.html

14.400 doses in total


earlier on they received a donation of 200.000 vaccine doses from neighbours Romania

[Vicky.]

Well gavins 'full of flu' today. My daughter asked if the doctors gave him covid I was like no, they stopped him getting it and she seems unable to see the logic in getting as ill as he is, to stop him getting ill. Haha. Am finding it harder to argue with her tbh but will get it into her, before she goes back to school...as otherwise will be getting calls about her telling kids false stuff

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well gavins 'full of flu' today. My daughter asked if the doctors gave him covid I was like no, they stopped him getting it and she seems unable to see the logic in getting as ill as he is, to stop him getting ill. Haha. Am finding it harder to argue with her tbh but will get it into her, before she goes back to school...as otherwise will be getting calls about her telling kids false stuff

i'm feeling much better today, not 100% but i felt really **** yesterday. Now my arm is sore, so that took longer to appear

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm feeling much better today, not 100% but i felt really **** yesterday. Now my arm is sore, so that took longer to appear

I had a few days of random pains .. mainly joint ones .. then a stomach upset one afternoon..

Guess we’ll never know if they’re all related to the first Pfizer jab ..

I’m seeing a lot of reports saying the effects are worse if you’ve already had Covid and they can be considerably worse after the second jab


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I had a few days of random pains .. mainly joint ones .. then a stomach upset one afternoon..

Guess we’ll never know if they’re all related to the first Pfizer jab ..

I’m seeing a lot of reports saying the effects are worse if you’ve already had Covid and they can be considerably worse after the second jab


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yes, i think its related to immune response. So if you have immune response, you are going to feel more crap as your body generates anti bodies to fight it. I don't think it necessarily gets worse on the 2nd jab, just everyone gets to the same level of feeling crap, which is actually a good thing