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Old 25-11-2019, 11:50 AM #1126
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i don't think anyone has a problem with Amazon paying appropriate taxes in the territories they earn their money, that's fair. However, you are misrepresenting what labour intend to do. The have spoken out and said it is wrong to be rich when there are poor people in the country, and they intend to do something about that. That's a far left policy and will force all our high earners overseas. They tried it before under Dennis Healey, and they ended up with less tax coming in, not more
Corporation tax will be less than france and germany after labour have implemented their tax increase (if elected), so where exactly is this craziness coming from? It is wrong to have such wealth inequality in the modern world.

The starting salary for police, firemen, nurses etc hasn't gone up in 10 years, and yet the share of wealth amongst the top is consistently going up.

This is by definition, an unfair society. It's just disheartening to see people misguidedly doing their best to protect the wealthy over and above themselves.
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Corporation tax will be less than france and germany after labour have implemented their tax increase (if elected), so where exactly is this craziness coming from? It is wrong to have such wealth inequality in the modern world.

The starting salary for police, firemen, nurses etc hasn't gone up in 10 years, and yet the share of wealth amongst the top is consistently going up.

This is by definition, an unfair society. It's just disheartening to see people misguidedly doing their best to protect the wealthy over and above themselves.
The problem with corporation tax is that is it the same rate if you turn over 50,000 or 50 million, it should be tiered to protect small businesses and help them survive

It is small businesses who will bear the brunt of a rise of 7 per cent, not big business unfortunately
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The two manifestos are poles apart both disappointing in that they are so polar opposite in their spending, one is over the top, the second too prudent, neither appeal to me
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The problem with corporation tax is that is it the same rate if you turn over 50,000 or 50 million, it should be tiered to protect small businesses and help them survive
There are tools out there to help small businesses. I know because I take advantage of them.
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Well Corbyn is not exactly 'poor' he has an apartment in London (Surrey I think) and 7 bedroom house in Shropshire, so lets hope the same applies to him.
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There are tools out there to help small businesses. I know because I take advantage of them.

You are tax avoiding then? The corporation tax bill comes in every year to us
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Well Corbyn is not exactly 'poor' he has an apartment in London (Surrey I think) and 7 bedroom house in Shropshire, so lets hope the same applies to him.
and lets not forget that vile Abbott who sent her kids to private school

oh yes and she is corbyns best buddy too

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The two manifestos are poles apart both disappointing in that they are so polar opposite in their spending, one is over the top, the second too prudent, neither appeal to me
One appears over the top because that's how we've been conditioned. It's better to aim for the stars and land on the moon, than it is to aim for the ceiling and land on the floor.
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Probably companies like Amazon and starbucks that pay next to zero in taxes, or maybe folks like JRM that have the family business listed off shore to avoid paying tax to the british people on over 150m of profits.

It's not a bad thing to be successful, but it's a bad thing to take advantage of the infrastructure put in place by previous generations, and then turn around and avoid paying it forward.
everyone from a street sweeper to bill gates will do all they can to pay less and keep more

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Exactly, that's why we need to end the practices that allow people like JRM to avoid taxes altogether. His family got a nice grant of Ł5m in the last week to upgrade one of his ancestral homes, whilst he avoids giving anything.
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Well Corbyn is not exactly 'poor' he has an apartment in London (Surrey I think) and 7 bedroom house in Shropshire, so lets hope the same applies to him.
Why wouldn't it? People doing well is not the issue.
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Bill gates stopped working and started giving all his money away in 2010, since then his wealth has nearly doubled, for some context on why such extreme wealth is damaging to society.
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Exactly, that's why we need to end the practices that allow people like JRM to avoid taxes altogether. His family got a nice grant of Ł5m in the last week to upgrade one of his ancestral homes, whilst he avoids giving anything.
i am sure the grant was legal and above board, historical buildings need renovation
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or maybe he was too busy and they are a little bitty bitter

He's releasing the manifesto in the country, and he's too busty to talk about the manifesto to *checks notes... Wales Online? Yeah, that checks out
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i am sure the grant was legal and above board, historical buildings need renovation
Of course it's legal and above board, but avoiding paying into a system that gives you Ł5m grants to do up one of your houses seems a little off to me personally. I'm sure to others that like to live vicariously through folks taking advantage of the system, it's perfectly fine and acceptable. It's just a fundamental disagreement on how we see society.
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People aren't concerned with issues like this, and instead will fight for JRM to pay nothing and take everything. That's the most damning aspect of this whole election campaign to me; caring has come to be seen as a weakness in this country.
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People aren't concerned with issues like this, and instead will fight for JRM to pay nothing and take everything. That's the most damning aspect of this whole election campaign to me; caring has come to be seen as a weakness in this country.
Im concerned that most homeless are fake and on the take (like the one in the image)


Its more important that people stop giving them money as now its seen as a legit revenue source
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Its more important that people stop giving them money as now its seen as a legit revenue source
As if to prove my point...

JRM avoiding tax on Ł150m is good, but we should stop giving the homeless money in case a few of them aren't really homeless.

There are no better champions of plutocrats and oligarchs, than those closer to the homeless than they care to admit.
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As if to prove my point...

JRM avoiding tax on Ł150m is good, but we should stop giving the homeless money in case a few of them aren't really homeless.

There are no better champions of plutocrats and oligarchs, than those closer to the homeless than they care to admit.
i dont see any connection at all, but the last time i went to Glasgow i saw lots of fake homeless and mugs giving them money. i did not see JRM when i was there
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