[MrGaryy]

Anyone else finding this ridiculous? He's a man of deep faith which is widely known to be against gay marriage and the other housemates are just using this as a reason to pick on him and make him look like a bad person. Since when is a person defined by their beliefs? He's shown absolutely no malice towards Mario, Corin, Govan or Shabby and never once voiced his disdain at homosexuality until pressured into voicing his beliefs by Josie in front of everyone. I'm finding the whole thing I a bit nasty to be quite honest.

[_Seth]

Um, If I wanted to get married to a dude and it was up to him - he'd deny me and my boyfriend marriage. He's a cunt for that.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Um, If I wanted to get married to a dude and it was up to him - he'd deny me and my boyfriend marriage. He's a cunt for that.

are you telling me that if you were in a serious relationship with a man and planned to get married, you would go and ask a Catholic monk to marry you, even though you're fully aware of how homosexuality is perceived in the church?

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Um, If I wanted to get married to a dude and it was up to him - he'd deny me and my boyfriend marriage. He's a cunt for that.

Then why would you want to be married in a faith you clearly would not believe in since it takes the view that gay marriage is wrong? THAT to me is just being a *****. If gay people want to get married go tie the knot in a register office, not in a church.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Um, If I wanted to get married to a dude and it was up to him - he'd deny me and my boyfriend marriage. He's a cunt for that.

He has as much right to his opinions as you - get someone else to marry you then - no big deal!

[Shaun]

depends on how strongly he believes in it I guess. Ultimately he has very half-hearted beliefs in a wholeheartedly terrible religion.

[Z]

I think it's a bit unfair on Dave to be picked up on that. He's absolutely cool with gay people being in the house; he's quite blatantly not homophobic - he's a Christian, of course he's going to disagree with gay marriage - I actually think he should be viewed in a positive light for being fine with gay people in spite of his religious beliefs.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

are you telling me that if you were in a serious relationship with a man and planned to get married, you would go and ask a Catholic monk to marry you, even though you're fully aware of how homosexuality is perceived in the church?

No, I just said if it was up to him he'd deny me and my BF marriage.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Phlip

No, I just said if it was up to him he'd deny me and my BF marriage.

Well you and your hypothetical boyfriend's marriage has very little to do with a Brummie in a Big Brothe rhouse.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Phlip

No, I just said if it was up to him he'd deny me and my BF marriage.

Not him - the church denies you the right. He just has to abide by the law of the church.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

Not him - the church denies you the right. He just has to abide by the law of the church.

Yep. Even Mario stood up for him and said he's not against it but in his capacity as a monk he is unable to perform the ceremony.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

Not him - the church denies you the right. He just has to abide by the law of the church.

If it was up to HIM, he'd say no.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Phlip

If it was up to HIM, he'd say no.

Who could say?

He's only taken that stance because it's the law of the church, if it was fully upto him I don't think he'd mind really since it's obvious he isn't homophobic.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Phlip

No, I just said if it was up to him he'd deny me and my BF marriage.

Quite right too, because you would be unreasonable to expect him to compromise his faith for you.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by angus58

Quite right too, because you would be unreasonable to expect him to compromise his faith for you.

Well said!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think it's a bit unfair on Dave to be picked up on that. He's absolutely cool with gay people being in the house; he's quite blatantly not homophobic - he's a Christian, of course he's going to disagree with gay marriage - I actually think he should be viewed in a positive light for being fine with gay people in spite of his religious beliefs.

This, I don't really like him but it's obvious that he isn't homophobic and I don't really think he believes in that part of it really, he seemed a bit half hearted about it.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think it's a bit unfair on Dave to be picked up on that. He's absolutely cool with gay people being in the house; he's quite blatantly not homophobic - he's a Christian, of course he's going to disagree with gay marriage - I actually think he should be viewed in a positive light for being fine with gay people in spite of his religious beliefs.

He's basically saying, though "You're my friend but sorry, I don't think you deserve the same rights I do".

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by iRyan

He's basically saying, though "You're my friend but sorry, I don't think you deserve the same rights I do".

No he's saying 'You're my friend, but the religion I follow does not grant you the same rights as I have' - not about his personal opinion and nothing about whether or not gays should have the same rights.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by iRyan

He's basically saying, though "You're my friend but sorry, I don't think you deserve the same rights I do".

Well no. He's basically saying "You're my friend but sorry, my bosses believe that at the moment if we cave on this rule some of our existing members might get hacked off and leave the organisation. However not so far from now they will more than likely relax this old fashioned rule to fall in line with the current social standing. If it were up to me I'd do it because I love you but my hands are tied on this. Pass the nail varnish buddy. Is my guy-liner on straight? C'mon let's hug it out."

Y' see he may be boring but he's not a bigot.

[CaraRawr]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think it's a bit unfair on Dave to be picked up on that. He's absolutely cool with gay people being in the house; he's quite blatantly not homophobic - he's a Christian, of course he's going to disagree with gay marriage - I actually think he should be viewed in a positive light for being fine with gay people in spite of his religious beliefs.

This.

[BB_Eye]

Yeah I'd say they're overreacting big time and just using it against him.

What they should be really annoyed about is his insufferable pontificating and bizarre bible reading sermons.

[supergirthuk]

I agree with gay marriage as it is about loving someone but if Dave doesnt thats up to him and he is entitled to his opinion. If you were gay and wanted to marry then I am sure there are plenty of other people who would marry you. Just go to one of them.

[jtalh2003]

he is trying to walk a tight rope on the one hand he dont want to offend his faith on the other he dont wanna offend the voting public
personal i just think he should do what ever he thinks is right and bugger every one else you should always be true to your self

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by jtalh2003

he is trying to walk a tight rope on the one hand he dont want to offend his faith on the other he dont wanna offend the voting public
personal i just think he should do what ever he thinks is right and bugger every one else you should always be true to your self

He'd really be in trouble with the church if he did that.

[jtalh2003]

Originally Posted by Shiner

He'd really be in trouble with the church if he did that.

yep but sometimes it needs people on the inside of a organisation to say something is wrong to get change