[Stu]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back.

Now I know why we coined the term 'Holy Shit!'.

That's a great tagline. Works much better than 'Probably The Best Deity In The World'

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

No, it's because so much of the church is bound up in tradition and man's way of thinking that they've missed what's in the Bible (including the fundies). So many church leaders preach about being sombre and reverant and are afraid to experience what's in the Bible. Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back. To me NOT enjoying God is irreverant!
Plenty of Jesus juice to go around.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Blimey you lot have been busy.

Right, let's clear up a few smaller things first.

Dave does not have a 'church' or people that follow him. He's a full time minister that goes around the country and abroad ministering in churches. As far as I'm concerned there is only one church anyway, it's like a tree with loads of branches.

I've known Dave for over ten years. The intoxication he speaks of has only increased over the last four years but has been spoken of in the church for two thousand years. The bible makes many references to God's presence being like wine and in the book of acts on the day of pentecost the early church founders came rolling out of the 'upper room' and people thought they were drunk, the response was 'These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning!' acts 12:15.
The intoxicating presence of God does indeed feel like being drunk or indeed stoned. It isn't mass hysteria or something that is whipped up. Sometimes I feel it just doing my job, or washing the dishes, or driving my car.
Psalm 16;11 says ' You have made known to me the path of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence,
with eternal pleasures at your right hand.'

1 Corinthians 2:14
14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.



If you have real axe to grind then contact Endemol with your concerns, don't throw up all kinds of dispicable accusations that bear no truth.

No doubt people will still criticise him and your perfectly entitled to do that. My faith (and Dave's) is rugged enough to withstand petty criticism. Just remember, you don't know him, I do.

Super

"Dave is not a preachy guy, he's just himself. You cannot however separate Dave from God. Nor should people try to. It's like accusing John James of preaching about Australia becuase he has an Oz accent."

You can separate me from Scotland and I'll still have a Scottish accent but I'll not blow about being drunk on the Lord or wear a monk or kilt costume.

"The intoxication he speaks of has only increased over the last four years but has been spoken of in the church for two thousand years. The bible makes many references"

But he has has to slur words when acting drunk

"If you have real axe to grind then contact Endemol with your concerns"

Not concerned at all - think he's an idiot who has certainly pushed many viewers away from this Lord malarky

You will go to Heaven Peter and I'll be worm food

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Stu

The reality is a whole lot less cooler :

Youtube video

PRAISE!

*hic*

yes i know that is the reality but it still the same effect drunk on god and its readily accepted people dont bat an eye at them.

[Joelle.]

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

[dudus]

Originally Posted by brian3

After reading the bible. Dave acts like a 12 year old who has drunk a mouthfull of shandy and is walking around saying "I'm REALLY drunk". It looks so fake

I can't stand people who fake being pissed. Its like whats the point, its something that daft kids do not a grown man. KICK DAVID OUT NOW!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by bobnot

yes i know that is the reality but it still the same effect drunk on god and its readily accepted people dont bat an eye at them.

I was reffering of course to the exchange of gaudy, uninspired Christian music with the thumping electronic beats of the revised video you posted.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Juan_Sheet

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

I think so too

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

No, it's because so much of the church is bound up in tradition and man's way of thinking that they've missed what's in the Bible (including the fundies). So many church leaders preach about being sombre and reverant and are afraid to experience what's in the Bible. Once you've tasted the goodness of God there's no going back. To me NOT enjoying God is irreverant!
Plenty of Jesus juice to go around.

I wouldn't waste your time - some people will never get it. Just because I have not experienced such a phenomenon does not mean it does not exist.

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by Juan_Sheet

I mean I like Dave at times but the whole drunk on the holy spirit bull**** really irritates me. It does look very fake (I mean how the hell can you get drunk from reading). I bet he offends a lot of Christians watching as well, he is basically making a laughing stock of religion.

Originally Posted by dudus

I can't stand people who fake being pissed. Its like whats the point, its something that daft kids do not a grown man. KICK DAVID OUT NOW!

Did you read my post on page 4 or did you just get half way through the thread and just replied anyway?

[dudus]

Drunk on the holy spirit? Whatever next? NUTTERS

[Stu]

You know for the record if you could get intoxicated from God, I think Alcohol is perhaps the last thing it would feel like, considering how creatively and spiritualy bankrupt that particular buzz feels when compared to certain other drugs.. In fact, if one had a pantheist view of things, as I sort of do actually, you can get stoned off God.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Did you read my post on page 4 or did you just get half way through the thread and just replied anyway?

Are you picking a fight? is this what the Lord woud do?

[dudus]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Did you read my post on page 4 or did you just get half way through the thread and just replied anyway?

I didn't even bother reading the first post, got halfway through it and fell asleep. Thanks for the heads up though

[dudus]

Originally Posted by Stu

You know for the record if you could get intoxicated from God, I think Alcohol is perhaps the last thing it would feel like, considering how creatively and spiritualy bankrupt that particular buzz feels when compared to certain other drugs.. In fact, if one had a pantheist view of things, as I sort of do actually, you can get stoned off God.

Rahtid the babylon scum ah destroy my GODS holy plant ONE DAY BABYLON SHALL FALL JAH RASTAFARI

[Peter Plunker]

Weed is vile when compared to God.
PS, my bedroom used to look like that.

[flamingGalah!]

It seems Dave & his "friends" who all believe in this bull**** are all ex druggies & alchoholics, it is a well known fact that even excessive use of "weed" makes you incredibly thick...

It is nonsense, tosh, mumbo jumbo & anyone that thinks it is true really needs to get out more...

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by dudus

Drunk on the holy spirit? Whatever next? NUTTERS

It's called Absynthe - made by Belgian Monks

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Weed is vile when compared to God.
PS, my bedroom used to look like that.

I rest my case...

[cazzy555]

Dave does act more like he's stoned though than drunk

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Weed is vile when compared to God.
PS, my bedroom used to look like that.

Was Steven Baldwin your fave in CBB this year perchance? He used to have an alcohol/drug dependance before ge got his god addiction

[President]

Dave's a disgrace to the Christian community. He isn't a real Christian. He's taking the piss out of the REAL Christianity beliefs with his stupid "drunk on holy spirit" act

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by President

Dave's a disgrace to the Christian community. He isn't a real Christian. He's taking the piss out of the REAL Christianity beliefs with his stupid "drunk on holy spirit" act

What would Gavin say?????

[Stu]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

It seems Dave & his "friends" who all believe in this bull**** are all ex druggies & alchoholics, it is a well known fact that even excessive use of "weed" makes you incredibly thick...

It is nonsense, tosh, mumbo jumbo & anyone that thinks it is true really needs to get out more...

There is no proven, widely accepted link between the use of Tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in Cannabis, and brain damage.

Using Cannabis does not make you thick. Thick people using Cannabis makes them thick. Er. They were always going to be stupid.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Stu

There is no proven, widely accepted link between the use of Tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in Cannabis, and brain damage.

Using Cannabis does not make you thick. Thick people using Cannabis makes them thick. Er. They were always going to be stupid.

There are links. People who excessively smoke dope end up dopes themselves, I have seen it happen to people I know...