[Legend killer]

Anyone else got any love for Chalmers. He is clutch as hell , doesn't back down from no fight and shoots game winners over Rose

My second favourite player from D Wade

[SoBig]

Just amazing.

Wade had the best player in the NBA in LeBron, a top 3 power forward in Chris Bosh, a defensive beast in Haslem, a super tough clutch player in Chalmers, one of the best shooters/rebounders at the 3 spot in Mike Miller AND YET he still couldn't get it done. Amazing.

[Legend killer]

^^^ What a FAIL Haslem was INJURED all season and was not even half fit for the Chicago season

Mike Miller was also injured all season and when he came back he played with an injured finger so was bricking 3's

Christina Bosh did you see his defense on Dirk for the open game winning layup NUFF SAID

Lechoke somehow managed to get abused by OAP Marion and score 8 points

So Wade only had Chalmers and he still had MVP numbers and should still have won the serious

It's a shame he didnt have Gasoft to carry him in the last game like Kobe had when he was chucking his bricks in deciding game vs Celtics PMSL

Wade Career Statline VS Kobe Career Statline
PPG - 25.5 PPG - 25.3
Blocks Per Game - 1.1 Blocks Per Games - 0.5
Steals Per Game - 1.8 Steals Per Game - 1.4
Assists Per Game - 6.3 Assists Per Game - 4.7
Rebounds Per Game 5.2 Rebounds Per Game - 5.3
Field Goal Percentage 0.485 Field Goal Percentage - 0.445

So the only stat Kobe is SLIGHTLY better in is rebounds which given he is 2-3 inches taller is rubbish and the fact thats Wade NEVER completes a full season

These stats become even wider in PLAYOFF AVERAGES

PPG - 25.9 PPG - 25.4
Blocks Per Game - 1.1 Blocks Per Game - 0.7
Steals Per Game - 1.7 Steals Per Game - 1.4
Assists Per Game - 5.6 Assists Per Game - 4.8
Rebounds Per Game - 5.7 Rebounds Per Game - 5.1
Field Goal Percentage - 0.483 Field Goal Percentage - 0.448

LOL so he fails do beat Wade in ANY major catergory come Playoff time


PER rating scale sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance."
So how does Kobe stack up against LeBron or Wade

LeBron tops Kobe (and everyone except for Michael Jordan) 26.77 to 23.54, and Wade isn't too far behind with 25.59

And he even had to carry USA to Olympics Gold

Wade Averaged 16 points a game compared to Kobe's 15
Wade had a field goal% of .671 to Kobe's .462
Wade's 3% was .471 to Kobe's quite dreadful .321
Wade's Free throw % was .634 to Kobe's .583
Wade's rebound average was 4.0 compared to Kobe's 2.8 even though he gives up 3 inches on Kobe
Wade had 18 steals for the tourney compared to Kobe's 9
They had virtually the same Assists per game average
And the only stats he trumped Wade in was block

To only trump Wade in only 1 stat starting all 8 of the Usa's matches when Wade did not start 1 is quite embarassing really. And to make it worse he played on average an extra 5 mins a game more than Wade

The stats Kobe fans get so touchy about when Flash is mentioned

[Legend killer]

Don't worry Kobe the media don't want to bring these stats up you are the second coming of Jordan after all PMSL

[Legend killer]

6 of 24 from the field gAME 7 VS Celtics

CLUTCH

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

^^^ What a FAIL Haslem was INJURED all season and was not even half fit for the Chicago season

Mike Miller was also injured all season and when he came back he played with an injured finger so was bricking 3's

Christina Bosh did you see his defense on Dirk for the open game winning layup NUFF SAID

Lechoke somehow managed to get abused by OAP Marion and score 8 points

So Wade only had Chalmers and he still had MVP numbers and should still have won the serious

Haslem came back for the Chicago series and he was fine. He played in the finals without any limitations. And held Dirk to below 40% shooting when he was guarding him.

So what you are telling me is Chris Bosh and Lebron aren't enough for Wade to win a ring? I mean he is wayyyyyyy better than Kobe after all. Its not like Kobe ever won multiple championships with a Chris Bosh type player and an above average player as his two next best players. Oh wait.. he has.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Wade Career Statline VS Kobe Career Statline
PPG - 25.5 PPG - 25.3
Blocks Per Game - 1.1 Blocks Per Games - 0.5
Steals Per Game - 1.8 Steals Per Game - 1.4
Assists Per Game - 6.3 Assists Per Game - 4.7
Rebounds Per Game 5.2 Rebounds Per Game - 5.3
Field Goal Percentage 0.485 Field Goal Percentage - 0.445

So the only stat Kobe is SLIGHTLY better in is rebounds which given he is 2-3 inches taller is rubbish and the fact thats Wade NEVER completes a full season

These stats become even wider in PLAYOFF AVERAGES

PPG - 25.9 PPG - 25.4
Blocks Per Game - 1.1 Blocks Per Game - 0.7
Steals Per Game - 1.7 Steals Per Game - 1.4
Assists Per Game - 5.6 Assists Per Game - 4.8
Rebounds Per Game - 5.7 Rebounds Per Game - 5.1
Field Goal Percentage - 0.483 Field Goal Percentage - 0.448

LOL so he fails do beat Wade in ANY major catergory come Playoff time


PER rating scale sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance."
So how does Kobe stack up against LeBron or Wade

LeBron tops Kobe (and everyone except for Michael Jordan) 26.77 to 23.54, and Wade isn't too far behind with 25.59

And he even had to carry USA to Olympics Gold

Wade Averaged 16 points a game compared to Kobe's 15
Wade had a field goal% of .671 to Kobe's .462
Wade's 3% was .471 to Kobe's quite dreadful .321
Wade's Free throw % was .634 to Kobe's .583
Wade's rebound average was 4.0 compared to Kobe's 2.8 even though he gives up 3 inches on Kobe
Wade had 18 steals for the tourney compared to Kobe's 9
They had virtually the same Assists per game average
And the only stats he trumped Wade in was block

Originally Posted by SoBig

I complied all of Kobe's averages, totals, awards etc from ages 22 to 29 and did the same for Wade. Since Wade entered the NBA at 22 and his most recent NBA season he was 29. Its only fair to compare them at the same ages.

KOBE

Averages
PPG: 28.9
AST: 5.3
REB: 5.8
STL: 1.7
BLK: 0.55
FG%: .45%
FT%: .84%
3p%: .34%

Totals

POINTS: 17379
ASSISTS: 3199
REBOUNDS: 3536
STEALS: 1020
BLOCKS: 332
GAMES PLAYE 600

AWARDS & ACCOMPLISHMENTS
CHAMPIONSHIPS: 2
FINALS: 4
FMVP: 0
MVP: 1
ALL NBA DEFENSE: Five 1st team, Two 2nd team
ALL TEAM NBA: Six 1st team, One 2nd team, One 3rd Team
SCORING TITLES: Two
ALL STAR: Eight

==================================

WADE

Averages
PPG: 25.4
AST: 6.3
REB: 5.1
STL: 1.8
BLK: 1.0
FG%: .48%
FT%: .76%
3p%: .29%

Totals

POINTS: 13908
ASSISTS: 3472
REBOUNDS: 2783
STEALS: 973
BLOCKS: 548
GAMES PLAYE 547

AWARDS & ACCOMPLISHMENTS
CHAMPIONSHIPS: 1
FINALS: 2
FMVP: 1
MVP: 0
ALL NBA DEFENSE: Zero 1st team, Three 2nd team
ALL TEAM NBA: Two 1st team, Three 2nd team, One 3rd Team
SCORING TITLES: One
ALL STAR: Seven

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[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

6 of 24 from the field gAME 7 VS Celtics

CLUTCH

Gasol was 6 for 16 in game 7.

And Kobe averaged 29/8/4/2 vs the Celtics in the Finals. Nice try.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Don't worry Kobe the media don't want to bring these stats up you are the second coming of Jordan after all PMSL

[SoBig]

Plus an All star MVP is missing from that pic.

[SoBig]

In Game 6. A very winnable game for the Heat. Wade went 6 for 16 and had FIVE turnovers. Dirk even missed 11 straight shots in that game and Wade still couldn't pull through.

[Legend killer]

SUgar coat it all you want the fact of the matter is the stats dont lie Kobe is Flash's Bitch and this has been clear for all to see since 06-07. Even the media about 6 years late are even starting to give Wade the love and respect that the 3rd most effective player only behind Jordan and Lebron deserves

You Kobe fans can whip out the tired "Wade is only better than Kobe cause Kobe is Old excuse " all you want but FACT your "Prime" Kobe was still only a better scorer than Flash which comes when you have a prime GOAT taking triple teams all game. As of right now Kobe is only a better shooter than Wade , who's jumper was never the same after his carrer threatening 08 injury. And the stats back both these statements

The fact of the matter is the only thing Kobe has on Wade is work ethic which i give him his due for. Wade has been and always will be a Slacker his free thows have been terrible ever since 06 and he puts no work in to sort the problem.

[Legend killer]

Oh **** D Wade has lost 3.5% body fat this off season

Expect a leaner Dwyane Wade this season. Body fat down from 4.8 to 3.5 percent of body mass index.

Wade redefined his game during lockout, according to personal trainer. Ready to debut new moves and shots.

Wade incorporated aero-space principles into his training, thanks to trainer and physics expert Ed Downs of @TERFaf.

Looks like Stat Margin between Kobe and Wade to widen even further PMSL

U MAD SOBIG

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

SUgar coat it all you want the fact of the matter is the stats dont lie Kobe is Flash's Bitch and this has been clear for all to see since 06-07. Even the media about 6 years late are even starting to give Wade the love and respect that the 3rd most effective player only behind Jordan and Lebron deserves

You Kobe fans can whip out the tired "Wade is only better than Kobe cause Kobe is Old excuse " all you want but FACT your "Prime" Kobe was still only a better scorer than Flash which comes when you have a prime GOAT taking triple teams all game. As of right now Kobe is only a better shooter than Wade , who's jumper was never the same after his carrer threatening 08 injury. And the stats back both these statements

The fact of the matter is the only thing Kobe has on Wade is work ethic which i give him his due for. Wade has been and always will be a Slacker his free thows have been terrible ever since 06 and he puts no work in to sort the problem.

Kobe in his Prime from 03 to 08 was better than Wade at everything. Except for slashing after 05.

Kobe's numbers only look bad when you include his stats from his teenage years! When he was a bench player, playing behind TWO all stars vets in Nick Van Excel and Eddie Jones. How is that sugar coating anything? Wade wasn't even good enough to play in the NBA as a teenager. Kobe at 19 averaged 15/3/2/1. Those are JR Smith type numbers. Basically the same numbers Wade averaged at 22 years old! FACT

[SoBig]

Just in case you don't who Eddie Jones was. He was like around Ray Allen's level, but slightly worse.

[Legend killer]

Kobe in his Prime from 03 to 08 was better than Wade at everything

Stats say other wise better scorer that is it and as i said that comes with having a prime Shaq who demands triple teams. Wade has ALWAYS been a better passer , rebounder , shot blocker etc

Quite Frankly Kobe is lucky Flash has been injured every season and been playing for a small Franchise with scrubs pretty much since he entered the league.

Can you imagine what Wade would have done with a PRIME Shaq and the limelight of a MAJOR basketball franchise. That **** would be nasty heck he even won a ring with past his best Shaq lol

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Kobe in his Prime from 03 to 08 was better than Wade at everything

Stats say other wise better scorer that is it and as i said that comes with having a prime Shaq who demands triple teams. Wade has ALWAYS been a better passer , rebounder , shot blocker etc

Quite Frankly Kobe is lucky Flash has been injured every season and been playing for a small Franchise with scrubs pretty much since he entered the league.

Can you imagine what Wade would have done with a PRIME Shaq and the limelight of a MAJOR basketball franchise. That **** would be nasty heck he even won a ring with past his best Shaq lol

Shaq was traded from the Lakers in 04 dude. Even when Shaq played for the lakers, Kobe's stats went up every time Shaq went out with an injury. Which was about 20 games a season. Kobe had his best stats when he played with scrubs(05-07). LOL @ this bs that Shaq was demanding triple teams. Yea, that was the case from 1996 to 2000, but by late 2000, both Kobe and Shaq demanded double teams. Thats why Horry, Shaw etc. were open for so many game winning shots. Kobe and Shaq were both roughly equal as players from 01 to 04. Both were top 3 players in the NBA along with Tim Duncan.

Wade is not a better passer, rebounder nor shot blocker than Kobe. Are you crazy? Kobe played in the triangle offense, which is an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE. Everyone touches the ball. Where its critical that a player makes a pass that leads to another pass(hockey assists). No one that has ever played in the triangle has averaged more than 6 assists per game. We are talking about some of the greatest wings ever (MJ, Kobe, Pippen). Wade has never played in an offense like that. Looking at assist averages, to determine who is a better passer is an awful way to go about it. You have to look at technique, ability, type of offensive system etc.

Wade plays for the steal or block, Kobe plays man to man defense. Thats why Wade racks up more blocks. If Kobe played defense to block shots, he would have just as many.

Another thing, you said playing with another superstar helps your stats. Then why is it that Wade's stats went down after Lebron joined his team? Did Wade all of a sudden become a worse player? Yea, that kills your theory right there. Your stats go up when you play with scrubs, because you take on a bigger role. FACT

[Legend killer]

When you see Kobe pass a ball like this than you can talk LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIv1fmRTMn4

[SoBig]

Are you bleeping serious?

Youtube video

Go to the 49 second mark.

Go to the 1:24 minute mark

Go to the 1:29 mark. WHEN HAS WADE EVER MADE A PASS LIKE THAT ONE?!!!

In fact just watch the whole video.


Here are some other passes.

Youtube video

Youtube video

Youtube video

There is not one pass that Kobe cannot make. He is one of the best passers in the NBA. Especially at the 2 guard spot.

[Legend killer]

Kobe in his Prime from 03 to 08 was better than Wade at everything

Very intresting you say this cause again the stats prove this WRONG

Skiping Flash's first season for ovious reasons lets look at the seasons in this peroid

04-05

Wade had better ASSIST ,BLOCK ,STEALS AND FIELD GOAL NUMBERS/PERCENTAGE

05-06

Wade had better ASSIST , REBOUNDS , STEALS ,BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

06-07

Wade had better ASSIST , STEALS , BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

07-08

Wade had better ASSIST ,STEALS,BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

In All the above season's Kobe played more Mins and More games than Wade

Which proves 3 things

1. That your suggestion that kobe is a better passer is PMSL worthy
2. As i said Kobe's "Prime" is only a better scorer than Wade which is likely a result of playing on average 5 mins more a match than Wade
3. Kobe is Flash's BITCH

U MAD SOBIG

[Legend killer]

[SoBig]

I've already destroyed you in everything that you brought up. Notice how you don't ever respond to my arguments? Because you can't.

[SoBig]

Another thing. Kobe was considered the best player in the NBA for MULTIPLE YEARS. Especially from 05-09. Wade has never ever been considered the best player in the NBA EVER.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Kobe in his Prime from 03 to 08 was better than Wade at everything

Very intresting you say this cause again the stats prove this WRONG

Skiping Flash's first season for ovious reasons lets look at the seasons in this peroid

04-05

Wade had better ASSIST ,BLOCK ,STEALS AND FIELD GOAL NUMBERS/PERCENTAGE

05-06

Wade had better ASSIST , REBOUNDS , STEALS ,BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

06-07

Wade had better ASSIST , STEALS , BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

07-08

Wade had better ASSIST ,STEALS,BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

In All the above season's Kobe played more Mins and More games than Wade

Which proves 3 things

1. That your suggestion that kobe is a better passer is PMSL worthy
2. As i said Kobe's "Prime" is only a better scorer than Wade which is likely a result of playing on average 5 mins more a match than Wade
3. Kobe is Flash's BITCH

U MAD SOBIG

Yet Kobe made the All-NBA First teams and All NBA Defensive first teams over Wade, finished higher in the MVP voting over Wade and was considered to be the best player in the NBA those years.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

When you see Kobe pass a ball like this than you can talk LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIv1fmRTMn4

I posted several videos with Kobe making passes like that and even some passes that topped that. How come you didn't respond to that post?

Is it because I'm winning? I think so.