[Livia]

Originally Posted by courses

Thought this article might be interesting.
"It is because society tells us that women are objects, not subjects, that when society is presented with a case of male violence or sexual abuse, everyone looks at it from his point of view: “Oh, he must have been provoked to have done that,” “He was a nice man who just snapped,” “He must have been confused by her signals,” “Maybe he’s been falsely accused, how terrible to have to go to jail for that.” With every victim-blaming, rape / violence apologist comment, society reveals through whose eyes it looks, and the answer is invariably the man’s."

cratesandribbons.com/2013/06/08/the-objectification-of-women-it-goes-much-further-than-sexy-pictures/

Very interesting and sadly true. Some great posts in here today.

[DanaC]

Vanessa: in what way was her behaviour 'disgusting'?

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Vanessa: in what way was her behaviour 'disgusting'?

It seems some women don't like others who are strong and confident enough to break outdated taboos and take the lead.

They would rather they remained in the background, quiet and demure, seen but not heard and living their lives pleasing men.

[DanaC]

Oh don't get me wrong: I didn't like the way Hazel conducted herself in the house during the first weeks. But not because she was being flirty. It's because she seemed to be being manipulative and using her sexuality as a tool for that purpose. I wouldn't like to see that from a woman or a bloke. And I don't see that kind of thing as being a strong, modern woman. All that stuff she was saying when she was telling him to 'be a man' over taking charge in the safe house at the start. And manner in which she tried reestablish his desire for her after he'd said he wanted to back off a bit (given some of what others had said to him about his girlfriend outside).

I think some of what she was doing during that time, sits well with a lot of what passes for 'strong liberated women' in the media these days and which is actually a major step back imo: women's supposed power over men because of their sexual appetites etc.

I didn't dislike it on the grounds of it being 'slutty' or on the grounds of her being a 'homewrecker'. Neither of those have any currency with me. She wasn't a homewrecker, he was. He's the one who claimed he didn't really even have a girlfirend. He's the one who chose to act when he had left a partner in the outside world, apparently waiting for him. She on the other hand was young free and single and under the impression he effectively was as well.

[rionablue]

My views for what they are worth are that Hazel definitely wont press charges and Im not sure if Daley can actually be charged if she doesnt. His ex wife came forward and said he was violent towards her, if this is true Daley definitely needs to be watched. He is the housemate that completely surprised me the most. For weeks he didnt show any kind of agression or male chauvinism and in one night he seemed to do a complete U turn and start mocking Hazel, telling her what she should and shouldnt do and threatening her. If he has done something like this in the past he needs to be cautioned. I genuinely thought he was a nice guy. How wrong was I??/

[Daffodil]

I thought he was revolting after the lone song/dance routine rubbing cream into his genitals and singing 'This is the way you cream your bum'. I am cringing as I write this. I was also alerted to his strangeness when he was pictured posing in the tree house with one tear rolling down his cheek.

[Brother Leon]

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Has he been charged yet or will we get to the year 2020 and press will still be like Daley could still face charges for Hazel assault.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Has he been charged yet or will we get to the year 2020 and press will still be like Daley could still face charges for Hazel assault.

He will never be charged. I would bet 50p on it!

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

He will never be charged. I would bet 50p on it!

Add 9,999.50 and we've got a bet.

But I agree he won't be charged.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

ex wife beaters that joined the police force because they secretly enjoy murdering people

[Marsh.]

3 police officers stopped him in the street? Really, well that makes it alright then.

Honestly, get a grip Daley.

That said, my first question to these officers would be did you watch the 2 minute edited highlight or the actual night unfold on live feed? I'm pretty sure I can guess the answer.

My sister thought it was unfair until she watched the clips on youtube and she did a complete 180.

[Marsh.]

Besides, the legal ramifications he faces or doesn't face has no bearing on the BB house which has its own rules of conduct. He broke them and was ejected accordingly.

[reece(:]

Daley is such an immature moron, he really needs to get a grip (not of a woman's neck).