[the truth]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Oh don't be so ridiculous.

He's in the Big Brother house, not MI5 headquarters.

There's nowhere private, his conversation was not private or 1 on 1. He is fully aware that there are millions of viewers watching him but yet he still chose to showcase his potentially offensive and ignorant opinions.

just the same you display your anti rleigious ignorance. everyone has a right to opinions. if he gets a warning , you should too

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Oh don't be so ridiculous.

He's in the Big Brother house, not MI5 headquarters.

There's nowhere private, his conversation was not private or 1 on 1. He is fully aware that there are millions of viewers watching him but yet he still chose to showcase his potentially offensive and ignorant opinions.

I don't think he is fully aware,as when Luisa tried to shush him up he seemed surprised?? I don't think he realises that the microphones pick up everything!?!

[erinp5]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Just to clarify I don't like his opinion, but I'm not going to hate him for expressing something he was asked.

I am sure Luisa would have been aware of his Christian views. If he goes then I do hope it's in the pairs they went in and he takes her with him.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Just to clarify I don't like his opinion, but I'm not going to hate him for expressing something he was asked.

I don't think anybody HATES him Ben. Evander had quite a big fan base in comparison to others so it's more the shock of him saying what he said which has brought this type of response.

The public can be fickle anyway as this can be argued all night. But on the other hand Evander may do something tomorrow that will completely change our opinion's on him.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Did he really say that? That's defo out of line and offensive though

[joeysteele]

I may surprise some here as I do believe people have the right generally to say what they believe as long as they don't stir up trouble for others.

However, I did find his comparison with being gay with someone born handicapped and that over time that can be helped to be 'cured' in in some way as a totally unacceptable thing to say under any circumstances.
That would have been totally ridiculous were he to have got away with making a comparison like that.

Also, this is the big brother house and in fact no housemates ever get to have such a thing as a 'private' conversation while in there,the programme is watched by the BB staff and the viewers so all the more need for care as to what they say.

He wasn't offensive as in strongly stating his view but he was way out as to even being remotely right as to anything he said concerning the subject,(in my opinion he was anyway).

[MeMyselfAndI]

Evander is homophobic, he didn't just have views, he went on too insult gay people

[Doogle]

I think everyone's doing a bit much on Ben. Nowhere has he been homophobic or said he liked or agreed with Evander's views.

It's not a good view to have but really someone like him is unlikely to ever change their mind so it's not worth making a big fuss about.

[Headie]

LOL they're basically saying "if your opinion isn't the general consensus, then shut it."

Sad times.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Another thing I forgot say that I found about the conversation aswell he used the word handicapped, which as a disabled I find extremely offensive, I so hope hes evicted ASAP

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Another thing I forgot say that I found about the conversation aswell he used the word handicapped, which as a disabled I find extremely offensive, I so hope hes evicted ASAP

Yeah I hate that word but I think they might still use it in america

[the truth]

I think the official warning was wrong. plain and simple. its a disgrace he couldnt offer his own opinion on the subject.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

I think the official warning was wrong. plain and simple. its a disgrace he couldnt offer his own opinion on the subject.

Its the arrogance of others who think their opinion is the only one that counts that turns my stomach

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by the truth

I think the official warning was wrong. plain and simple. its a disgrace he couldnt offer his own opinion on the subject.

An opinion on something he doesn't know about therefore making it ignorant and offensive

[Me. I Am Salman]

He equated being gay to being handicapped I have no time for anyone who believes you can be entitled to say that

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Salman!

He said gay people are the same as being handicapped I have no time for anyone who believes you can be entitled to say that

he didnt say that at all, your lying

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt say that at all, your lying

He just about did actually, he was indicating that if someone was born handicapped things could be done to help partly cure them over time,by that, then indicating that his view is that those who are gay, could likely be cured over time if they wanted to be.
That's where even I got really peeved at him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He just about did actually, he was indicating that if someone was born handicapped things could be done to help partly cure them over time,by that, then indicating that his view is that those who are gay, could likely be cured over time if they wanted to be.
That's where even I got really peeved at him.

he has a right to that view. those who choose to be offended need to grow up. just as some people think religion is codswallop theyre entitled to that opinion too. it was just a discussion. maybe he will change his opinion in time. but to ban the conversation is stalinist censorship and achieves absolutely nothing

[Redway]

To be fair, he wasn't even given an official warning and was only told that his views are potentially extremely offensive to many (and rightly so). Totally justified, IMO.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Salman!

He equated being gay to being handicapped I have no time for anyone who believes you can be entitled to say that

That is definitely one of the lines he crossed Salman and the warning was fully justified in my view.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Salman!

He equated being gay to being handicapped I have no time for anyone who believes you can be entitled to say that

Eww, so disappointing... yet another one in there living in the dark ages. If he didn't get a formal warning, he deserved one.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Eww, so disappointing... yet another one in there living in the dark ages. If he didn't get a formal warning, he deserved one.

he didnt do that, poster is lying to you

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt do that, poster is lying to you

No why are YOU lying, I've seen the show, read the transcript...

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by reece(:

No why are YOU lying, I've seen the show, read the transcript...

He did exactly what the original poster claimed Reece, no doubt about it.

[Macie Lightfoot]

<haven't seen the episode yet but lol @ some people defending homophobia>