[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Oh my god, is this for real?

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Oh my god, is this for real?

There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......

Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.

Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

you're thinking of institutional rac/sexism.

it's entirely possible to be an individual sexist or racist. there'd literally be no other word if some black dude who decided to keep saying "whites are disgusting" or w/e.

[smeagol]

its a slap in the face to every bb fan. and evrybody who has voted .
no way i will ever vote on bb again while they continue to treat the public like twats

[MeMyselfAndI]

I actually can't at people saying this is sexism

It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I actually can't at people saying this is sexism

It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]

It IS sexism though.

You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It IS sexism though.

You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender

Good point, I agree with all that Vicky.

[newsbb]

best twist so fat tbh

[mrflibble]

At first I didn't like it because I thought it was unfair. If the male housemates are better than the female housemates and the females are getting voted out then maybe there's a reason. BUT, since the theme is power trip and the nominations have been unfair every week, this kind of thing does fit in.

[Ammi]

..it's possibly sexism and maybe to even out the sexes but that would still be sexism because people haven't voted housemates out because of their sex, they're voted them out because they like them the least regardless..I don't think we can say sexism definitely though until we know if the guys will get some similar power later on....

[Semtex]

I don't know where this leaves the Hermaphrodite Steven with his big bangers and little malformed maggot penis.

He could complain if he is up due to him being a massive Mangina.

[JayBlaze]

Of course it is discrimination but they had to do something to keep the 5 girls remaining in the house. They create most of the highlights and drama.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well what do you think?

It's not the guys fault that the females are more bitchy and argumentative so they then get voted out

one of the fundamental rules on going into BB is that you accept BB can change the rules when and when ever it wants - its what you sign for.

[Robodog]

The new power twist is a division based on gender but it's not 'discrimination'.

Discrimination implies one group being discriminated against in a bad way.

There is nothing wrong with dividing the house based on gender anymore than there is dividing it based on age, hair colour or where in the world the HMs live.

It's just a bit of fun.

Also - differences do exist. Some people are female, some male, some are black, some white, some are able bodied, some less so.

It's become a touchy subject in the last few years whenever people make distinction between gender or race etc, alarm bells start ringing. I look forward to when this phase of society passes and people are comfortable talking about our differences without fear of words such as racism, sexism or discrimination popping up all the time.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Robodog

The new power twist is a division based on gender but it's not 'discrimination'.

Discrimination implies one group being discriminated against in a bad way.

There is nothing wrong with dividing the house based on gender anymore than there is dividing it based on age, hair colour or where in the world the HMs live.

It's just a bit of fun.

Also - differences do exist. Some people are female, some male, some are black, some white, some are able bodied, some less so.

It's become a touchy subject in the last few years whenever people make distinction between gender or race etc, alarm bells start ringing. I look forward to when this phase of society passes and people are comfortable talking about our differences without fear of words such as racism, sexism or discrimination popping up all the time.

Isn't guaranteeing that one specific gender will be facing eviction discriminating in a 'bad' way?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Josy

Isn't guaranteeing that one specific gender will be facing eviction discriminating in a 'bad' way?

Yes it is, I agree it definitely is.
As I said earlier in this thread I believe the only way to discount that is, if they also include a female only housemates up for eviction with the male housemates given the power then too later.

If sometime in this series they don't give the male housemates a power period and then have only the female housemates up for eviction then this will absolutely have been a discriminatory move on BB.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes it is, I agree it definitely is.
As I said earlier in this thread I believe the only way to discount that is, if they also include a female only housemates up for eviction with the male housemates given the power then too later.

If sometime in this series they don't give the males housemate a power period and then have only the female housemates up for eviction than this will absolutely have been a discriminatory move on BB.

Agreed Joey, I'm very interested for how they do it next week.

[Northern Monkey]

Nah,I would'nt say so,Unless they don't do the same for the girls,Including Helen.It's not the fact that it's all boys that are up that bothers me,I just don't like the constant twists and meddling,I wish BB would just let them get on with it when it comes to noms.

[Raph]

100% it should've never been done. Hey, if all 8 male housemates make the final 8 then so be it, it's never happened before so would give something really fresh. It's really awful tampering/manipulating nominations and this series seems to do it every bloody week.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Barker

100% it should've never been done. Hey, if all 8 male housemates make the final 8 then so be it, it's never happened before so would give something really fresh. It's really awful tampering/manipulating nominations and this series seems to do it every bloody week.

Hi Barker, I agree totally with you, I am also sick of the tampering with noms and eviction process.
All of it is pure manipulation of results now in my opinion and, as you say, doing so every week too, that is becoming really tiresome.

[Speedster]

It's very telling that when something doesn't go the guy's way people start having panic attacks. For the record, women have always been discriminated against on the show from series one-bad v.t,booed going in, any excuse to hate them in the house, voted out in keeping a bloke in, negative spin everything thing they do,say or think, whereas the men are more often than not excused their behavior.

I take no-one's noticed 3 women have already gone and no men have gone?. This always, always, always happens, yes, you may end up with a woman in the final 4 but that means she's outnumbered by guys because all the women were voted out in favour of men.

What BB is dong now is not, is not, is NOT discrimination atm because you don't know they won't do it to the men soon. If they don't turn the tables and give the men the power then it IS discrimination. Not until.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Speedster

It's very telling that when something doesn't go the guy's way people start having panic attacks. For the record, women have always been discriminated against on the show from series one-bad v.t,booed going in, any excuse to hate them in the house, voted out in keeping a bloke in, negative spin everything thing they do,say or think, whereas the men are more often than not excused their behavior.

I take no-one's noticed 3 women have already gone and no men have gone?. This always, always, always happens, yes, you may end up with a woman in the final 4 but that means she's outnumbered by guys because all the women were voted out in favour of men.

What BB is dong now is not, is not, is NOT discrimination atm because you don't know they won't do it to the men soon. If they don't turn the tables and give the men the power then it IS discrimination. Not until.

Er, no one is having 'panic attacks' I don't think most of us really care about it that much for it to effect our lives, but still...

As has been mentioned countless times, the 3 women that went were either boring or bitches, it has nothing to do with the fact they have vagina's & everything to do with their personalities...

The gripe most people seem to have isn't that the men are all up, but the fact that BB is now manipulating the show completely, when the whole premise is meant to be that the public ultimately decide who goes...

But imagine for a second that the twist was reversed & all the females were up, the outrage on here would be of biblical proportions... Discrimination works both ways, as does sexism...